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Topic: We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another.
Posted: Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:38:41 AM
striker wrote:
it seem religion breeds hatefulness


And Swift is hinting at the reason why. Religions generally don't just make assertions about the existence if one or more dieties. They also set out a philisophical framework which identifies human behaviors as good or bad. For example, they may require acts of respect for the diety or dieties, and encourage fair treatment of others.

When Swift says we have "just enough religion to make us hate" he doesn't mean the right amount. He means that we only get as far as identifying the behavior of others as bad and hating them for it. We do not have "enough to make us love" because we do not go on to identify our own hate as bad and correct it.

Swift's observation is not about belief in a diety. It is about how people misapply their belief systems. They find it easier to use the beliefs they profess to condemn others than to condemn themselves. Those who think they get a free pass because your life stance is aetheistic, are missing the point.



Topic: A man marries to have a home, but also because he doesn't want to be bothered with sex and all that sort of thing.
Posted: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 11:18:51 AM
Milica Boghunovich wrote:
A man marries to have a home, but also because he doesn't want to be bothered with sex and all that sort of thing.

W. Somerset Maugham (1874-1965)

"...doesn't want to be bothered with sex.." may not be sarcastic, but straightforward that a mentally and sexually normal and healthy man does not have to bother to look for sex which places him at many risks of STDs -that sort of thing, or he does not want to be feminists' sexual puppet, or having to have sex with somebody he doesn't love, or even something else...
The same, whether some would not like to admit it, applies to a mentally and sexually normal and healthy woman.
Think


Gary98 quotes the context elsewhere in this thread. It is from a discussion between husband and wife about why he never tells her that he loves her. He replies "you cannot expect a man to go on making love to his wife after three years". In 1921 "to make love" to a woman meant to work to convince her that you loved her. (Since some time in the 1960's it means to bed her.) And when he says he "doesn’t want to be bothered with sex and all that sort of thing" he is using the word "sex" in a very general 1920's sense. He is refering to all the behaviors in which we engage because we are sexually reproducing creatures. When he adds "all that sort of thing" to the word "sex" he is making it clear that he is refering to a broad set of behaviors which he does not have time for.

So in 21st century language the quote probably means something like this:

A man marries to have a home, but also because he is tired of working for the attention of women.

So, the husband here is probably not saying that he doesn't want to 'have sex' with his wife. He is saying that he sees no need to express his love for her in any other way such as by telling her that he loves her.