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Daemon
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Argument, as usually managed, is the worst sort of conversation.

Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)
Milica Boghunovich
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Daemon wrote:
Argument, as usually managed, is the worst sort of conversation.

Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


Constructive arguments can enhance positive changes.
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Whether true or not, it is the bare statement... Where's your arguments, sir?
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arguments are just a means to try to overpower someone by the use of the word and sometimes shouts
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Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.
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Good argument is intended to persuade another.
Barry Eisler
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Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute.
Josh Billings
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Arguments only confirm people in their own opinions.
Booth Tarkington
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Ridicule is the first and last argument of a fool.
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i like a good heated debate now and then
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Here the context from : The Works of the Rev. Jonathan Swift/Volume 16/Hints on Good Manners

A Treatise on Good Manners and Good Breeding

Of Good Manners as to Conversation.

Men of wit and good understanding, as well as breeding, are sometimes deceived, and give offence, by conceiving a better opinion of those with whom they converse than they ought to do. Thus I have often known the most innocent raillery, and even of that kind which was meant for praise, to be mistaken for abuse and reflection.
Of gibing, and how gibers ought to suffer.
Of arguers, perpetual contradicters, long talkers, those who are absent in company, interrupters, not listeners, loud laughers.
Of those men and women whose face is ever in a smile, talk ever with a smile, condole with a smile, &c.
Argument, as usually managed, is the worst sort of conversation; as it is generally in books the worst sort of reading.
Good conversation is not to be expected in much company, because few listen, and there is continual interruption. But good or ill manners are discovered, let the company be ever so large.
Perpetual aiming at wit, a very bad part of conversation. It is done to support a character: it generally fails: it is a sort of insult on the company, and a constraint upon the speaker.
For a man to talk in his own trade, or business, or faculty, is a great breach of good manners. Divines, physicians, lawyers, soldiers, particularly poets, are frequently guilty of this weakness. A poet conceives that the whole kingdom * * * * * * * * * * * *

http://www.bartleby.com/27/9.html
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Arguing with a stubborn person is the worst thing you could expect....
Milica Boghunovich
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Mehrdad77 wrote:
Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute.
Josh Billings


Applause Applause Applause
Milica Boghunovich
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sandeep patra wrote:
Arguing with a stubborn person is the worst thing you could expect....


This is a very one-sided view. What if that stubborn person really stands for the positive, healthy, true thing, and you are the one who is stubborn to see it! Study Logic to find out more about different kinds of argument.
Dinos Constantinou
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A thesis is one thing but arguments with people usually have negative effects: those who win become conceited and the losers feel glum.

Conversation is good when people have the capacity to listen carefully and to stay with the topic. However humble a person's background is, there is something you can learn from them and mutual benefits result. According to a Chinese proverb, "There is no shame in not knowing, the shame is in not bothering to find out."

If each of us listens attentively to others, we learn how people are. It is better to remain silent than to speak as though to yourself. Posing probing questions to people who are willing to reveal themselves yields a treasure well worth the dig. You must be willing to reveal yourself to others too, if they are curious about you.

Dinos, a child always hungry for knowledge.
NeuroticHellFem
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Daemon wrote:
Argument, as usually managed, is the worst sort of conversation.

Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)

As usually managed? Why this condition? I think the statement stands better without it: "Argument is the worst sort of conversation". Whichever definition of argument he's referring to, a debate or a quarrel, you can leave the "as usually managed" out. Speak to the hand
Acharya
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Dinos ... Well said - Welcome to Forum
Joy Frohlich
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It depends on what Jonathan Swift meant by "as usually managed".
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As usually managed . . .
gerry
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Think my way or do not think at all
johnfl
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DO NOT TRY TO SAY IT BETTER, OR BE STUPID IN A SENCE.
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Daemon wrote:
Argument, as usually managed, is the worst sort of conversation.

Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)


Nothing is more annoying in a conversation than a useless dispute. The most likely people to engage in useless disputes are those
who scream their right to an opinion, but never exercise it unless someone else does first: which brings about a contrary opinion,
just for the sake of disagreement.
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