I know I shouldn't feed the thread, but I just had to post my thanks for that last post. So revealing




Keeppyy - I have to thank you.
I have never been in an abusive relationship, although I feel I have witnessed some. But analyzing your use of language - threats, appeasement, denial, blame - I feel I am really beginning to understand the cycle of abuse. So, I thank you for that.

Also, being brought up in the Protestant religion I was taught to question and challenge all authority, including religious. To claim any personal relationship with my god I may wish to pursue.

So I have never really understood why some of the people who post in this forum have such an obsession with religion, even though they claim not to believe.

But you are really opening my eyes to how manipulative and abusive the Christian religion can be - why it makes these people so sick, so angry.

So, thankyou for that, too. From now on I will be more compassionate to such posts!

Have a nice day. Or suffer untold tortures, since that seems to be your thing. Either way.

in those days, i will pour out my spirit on all flesh; before the great and awesome day of the lord comes. at that time when i restore the fortunes of judah and jerusalem, i will gather all the nations and bring them down to the decision valley? and enter into judgment with them there on behalf of my people israel, because they have scattered them among the nations and have divided up my land, let your men of war draw near and come up to the valley. the lord will roar from Zion, and the earth will shake, i will avenge the blood of my people, blood i have not avenged.
israel prayed, have pity and spare your people o lord. give not your inheritance to reproach, that the heathen nations should rule over them again. at that time when i restore the prosperity of judah and jerusalem, says the lord, i will gather the armies of the world into the valley and punish them for harming my people. then i will live on my holy mount Zion, wine will drip from the mountains and milk will flow from the hills when the lord lives in jerusalem.
warn everyone to tremble, it will be so terrible when the lord appear, firey flames surround them, no soldier escapes, the lord leads that army of countless troops. never again i will make you an object of scorn to the nations. be not afraid, surely the lord has done great things. never again will foreigners invade Jerusalem.

for three transgressions even for four i? will not revoke the punishment of it. but their lies, after which their fathers have walk is leading them astray. therefore i will bring upon them all these further evil spoken of.

you push away all thought of punishment awaiting you but by your deeds you bring the day of your judgment near.

i will not overlook their sins anymore. i will keep watch to give them trouble, all those sinners who say, evil shall not meet us.

[quote=keepyy]in those days, i will pour out my spirit on all flesh; before the great and awesome day of the lord comes. at that time when i restore the fortunes of judah and jerusalem, i will gather all the nations and bring them down to the decision valley? and enter into judgment with them there
the day is coming when i will restore the kingdom of david fallen into ruins. in those days, corn will grow faster, everything will overflow with blessing. the amorites were there when israel entered canaan. from egypt i led them 40 years through the desert, then i gave them the land of the amorites. i also brought out of caphtor the philistines and from kir the syrians...

you have said to yourself, who can pull me down. though it seems among the stars, i? will pull you down, i will bring you down who pride in his heart, who can bring me down to the ground?

Would you care to explain that?

get up and pray to your god for help, maybe he will feel sorry for you and spare your life. in my distress, i called to the lord and he answered me. i thought i was banished from his presence. when my life was fainting away, i remembered the lord and my prayer rose to him. but those who worship idols forsake his mercy. o lord, i will make good what i have vowed.

Er . . .

That post was over a year ago and you already answered it - or maybe keepyyy did.

Are you sure that your time-sense isn't slipping?
Does your life seem a little unreal to you at times?
Do you have periods when things get a little . . . hazy?

lament and wail for this. will you mourn like the ostriches or make your lamentation like the jackals?

There you go, Dreamy. No place like 'home', eh?



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many nations have gathered to attack you. they say, Jerusalem must be destroyed, we can hardly wait to see her disgraced. but they dont know that the lord has gathered them to be punised. smash them to pieces, Zion with your iron horns and trample them to pieces with your bronze hoofs.

we will walk in the name of the lord forever. are you not supposed to be concerned about justice? is not the lord in the midst of us?

who does not retain his anger for long because he is pleased to be merciful? what does the lord requires of you but to love mercy and walk humbly, to look to the lord and wait for him until he pleads your case and established your right. the voice of the lord calls out to all. heed the rod or the one who appoints it?

what profits an idol? it is merely a false god. what foolish lie that they could help; teachers of lies

come to your sense before you are driven away like chaff in the wind, before the burning anger of the lord burns you. proud of your own power, you have not accepted his discipline.

those who turn back and those who pretend to worship and those who have not required the ten commandments given to moses as first necessity. seek humility, seek righteousness maybe you will be sheltered on the lord s wrath. the lord will punish the men that are settled on their lees, who say in his heart, neither will the lord do evil. i will bring distress upon men that they shall walk like blind men. this they shall have for their pride. i said, surely they will receive instruction and fear me.