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RARA
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 8:57:23 AM
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I am reliable informed that the sentence below is grammatically correct...

Is it really only Peter and me for supper tonight?

although

Is it really only Peter and I for supper tonight

sounds so much better.

The rule I was told was that if you take the other person out the sentence should still read correctly, which it does with 'me' and not with 'I' however have I been incorrectly informed that the first one is the right one?
Christine
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:09:37 AM
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I would use "me" because it sounds better. But, I don't really know it is correct.
pedro
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:33:03 AM
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I suppose the reason it sounds a bit off is because it is ambiguous. "Is it really only Peter and me for supper tonight" could mean that the speaker is unhappy at there being only two courses (Peter and the speaker)on the menu! "Is it really only Peter and I that are going to have supper tonight?" removes the ambiguity.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:35:39 AM

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Peter and me is not a subject in this sentence so it's the first choice.
RARA
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:37:36 AM
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pedro wrote:
I suppose the reason it sounds a bit off is because it is ambiguous. "Is it really only Peter and me for supper tonight" could mean that the speaker is unhappy at there being only two courses (Peter and the speaker)on the menu! "Is it really only Peter and I that are going to have supper tonight?" removes the ambiguity.


But should it not read

Is it only Peter and me that are going to have supper tonight?

buxton
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:57:34 AM
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I was taught to say 'I' rather than 'me', and to always list others in the group before referring to myself. For instance:

'Tom, Harry and I have been to play football'

I think 'I' is the right one though - hence the musical The King and I, rather than The King and Me.

Either way, my preference is 'Peter and I' - though I'd tighten the whole sentence up by saying:
'Is it only Peter and I having supper tonight?'
RARA
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 10:05:49 AM
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buxton wrote:
I was taught to say 'I' rather than 'me', and to always list others in the group before referring to myself. For instance:

'Tom, Harry and I have been to play football'

I think 'I' is the right one though - hence the musical The King and I, rather than The King and Me.

Either way, my preference is 'Peter and I' - though I'd tighten the whole sentence up by saying:
'Is it only Peter and I having supper tonight?'


Thanks, Like you I was taught to say I rather than me however my current boss, blueblood aristocrat, uses me. Hence my asking Anxious
alliejoan
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 10:52:18 AM
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The correct usage is "I." Although this may sound strange, that is only because we have forgotten, or chosen not to emphasize, English grammar properly in spoken (and--I'd argue--written) speech.

One should say

"It is I"/"It is he"/"This is she"/"Just you and I"/"Only you and I"/and, in your example "Peter and I"

Since "Peter and I" are the subjects of the sentence, the pronoun must be in the nominative case--"I"--rather than "me."
Ravindra
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 12:27:32 PM
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"I' is a subject pronoun, while 'me' is an object pronoun. In this sentence supper is the subject and 'Peter' and 'I' are in the object. The object pronoun for 'I' is 'me'. Hence the supper is going to be had by Peter and me (not I). Another classic example is:
Q: Who is tapping the door?
A: It (i.e., the action - tapping' in the subject) is me ( in the object). A construction of "Me is tapping the door' is not a sentence since this defies the grammar strictures. So:
I am tappng the door. (I is the subject and door is the object)
OR
The door is being tapped by me. (door is the subject and me is the object)
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 1:21:41 PM

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Is it me (who is) writing this?

or

Is it I?
grammargeek
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 1:25:58 PM
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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:
Is it me (who is) writing this?

or

Is it I?


It is I.
RuthP
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 1:55:43 PM

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RARA wrote:
I am reliable informed that the sentence below is grammatically correct...

Is it really only Peter and me for supper tonight?

although

Is it really only Peter and I for supper tonight

sounds so much better.

The rule I was told was that if you take the other person out the sentence should still read correctly, which it does with 'me' and not with 'I' however have I been incorrectly informed that the first one is the right one?

As several have noted, subjects take the "I" form and objects the "me" form. Sometimes it is easy to tell which is which:

SUBJECT: Peter and I are going to the movies.
OBJECT: He hit Peter and me several times with his cane.

This sentence is a little more confusing for two reasons.
* It is a question, which reverses the order of some of the words and throws some people off.
* American English speakers (I won't speak for the British, because I believe they are a little better) often misuse "me" when we deal with the verb "to be," which is what "is" is.

Most times when one is in doubt, one can sort it out by substituting "he / him" for the "I / me" in question. It is rarer to mix-up "he / him." In this case, even that little trick may not make it clear, so . . .

Change it to a statement and get rid of an unnecessary word:
It is only Peter and I (staying) for dinner. (staying) completes the meaning, but is not necessary; it may make things clearer for some.

"It is only" and "Peter and I" represent the same people. In the simplest sentence form one would say "Peter and I are staying for dinner." ("It is only" is used here and the original question because the speaker is ruling-out other people also staying.) It is also pretty clear here that "Peter and I" is the subject of the sentence and thus "I" is the correct form. (Try the he / him thing if you are still in doubt.)

Back to the original
"Is it only Peter and I (staying) for dinner?"

"Peter and I" cannot be an object, because the verb "is" (to be - is, are, was, were) is intransitive and never takes an object.

The only object here is "dinner," object of the preposition "for."

I hope this is a little help.
amedtychick
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 2:21:47 PM
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If I were to say this sentence I would go with the the first wording "Is it really only Peter and me for supper tonight?" because if you remove really only Peter, the sentence would be "Is it really only me for supper tonight?" which sounds better than "Is it really only I for supper tonight?".
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Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 2:29:46 PM
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me
grammargeek
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 2:42:41 PM
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To further support what RuthP so eloquently said, here is a quote from Woe Is I, a grammar book by Patricia T. O'Conner:

A pronoun following the verb to be. . . should act like a subject (I, he, she, they) and not an object (me, him, her, them).

Therefore, "Is it really only Peter and I for supper tonight?" is the most grammatically correct choice.

Angus
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 3:09:15 PM
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Grammargeek is technically correct. Conversationally, however, "Peter and me" is acceptable and much more common.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 3:10:21 PM

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Me think only subject and object. Here.
RARA
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 3:40:15 PM
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whoa, am completely confused now!

So me sounds better but I is correct?

I think I sounds better so does that make me correct?
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 4:11:18 PM

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Don't get me confused.
mbeau55
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 9:59:31 PM
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The pronoun is a predicate nominative. That means that it renames the subject. It should be in the nominative case, therefore, "I" is correct. That is probably why it sounds correct.

Whomever said it was an object is....wrong. Sorry.

"Me" does not sound better because it is incorrect.
Tovarish
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 10:30:54 PM
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Is it really only Peter for supper tonight?
Is it really only me for supper tonight?

You would not say,
Is it really only I for supper tonight?
Kat
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 11:35:36 PM
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It could be you and me depending on what's for dinner.
peterhewett
Posted: Friday, April 9, 2010 12:57:38 AM
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common usage is 'me'. Somewhat of a moot point.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, April 9, 2010 7:30:59 AM

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Kat wrote:
It could be you and me depending on what's for dinner.


Was that an invitation for me?
Vickster
Posted: Friday, April 9, 2010 9:32:36 AM
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Use I when it is the subject (nominative) and me when it is the object (accusative).

eg.... I write the book (I is the subject, book the object)

eg.... The dog bit me (the dog is the subject and me is the object)

I'd say " Peter and I" since they are the subject in this case...not supper.
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