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Daemon
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:00:00 AM
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Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)
Trivium_Discipulus
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:33:13 AM
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Daemon wrote:
Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)


Prejudice leads to self-deception.

Grammar and logic lead to conclusions.

Logic without grammar is irrational.

Conclusions without grammar or logic are absurd.
Bully_rus
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 3:42:18 AM
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No, no, no… "Off with his head" first, sentence afterwards.
monamagda
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 4:12:14 AM

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The quote context and source.

From "Alice in Wonderland", Chapter XII

Alice’s Evidence




‘It’s a pun!’ the King added in an offended tone, and everybody laughed, ‘Let the jury consider their verdict,’ the King said, for about the twentieth time that day.

‘No, no!’ said the Queen. ‘Sentence first — verdict afterwards.’

‘Stuff and nonsense!’ said Alice loudly. ‘The idea of having the sentence first!’

‘Hold your tongue!’ said the Queen, turning purple.

‘I won’t!’ said Alice.

‘Off with her head!’ the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. Nobody moved.

‘Who cares for you?’ said Alice, (she had grown to her full size by this time.) ‘You’re nothing but a pack of cards!’

Read this great book on line:https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/c/carroll/lewis/alice/chapter12.html
GreenBanana
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 6:57:26 AM

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What's in your desk?
NeuroticHellFem
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 8:09:03 AM

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GreenBanana wrote:
What's in your desk?

Is that a non sequitur or did I miss something?
What have you got in your pocket?
sandeep patra
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 8:45:14 AM

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That's a bit faster in terms of judgement.....
Gary98
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 11:21:39 AM

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He is what we call a sensitive guy, isn't he?
striker
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 12:09:42 PM
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cart in front of the horse
Absurdicuss
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 5:02:43 PM
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Daemon wrote:
Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)



I knew it! American police are using Alice in Wonderland in their training manuals.

TB Turtle
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 6:23:49 PM

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Great post Absurdicuss! I think they also use it in our courtrooms.
The Inquisitive Guereza
Posted: Monday, December 8, 2014 8:44:25 PM

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Reminds me of Cosby in the news.
Verbatim
Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:44:11 PM
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Daemon wrote:
Sentence first, verdict afterwards.

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)


Torture first, no trial, no verdict, why bother with sentence? Anything goes when the mind is gone.
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