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Daemon
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To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

Sun Tzu (544 BC-496 BC)
srilalitha p
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Mind games,brain games etc?
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Render therefore unto soldier the things which are soldier's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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And so the world will one day be ruled by women....
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Bullying, harassment, deception - is there something else what's worth to mention? May "breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting" by any chance be dubbed compromise and in conclusion - peace?
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Sometimes words can accomplish what swords cannot.
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Seems like we have a week of Sun Tzu :)
jacobusmaximus
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Adela Alexandra wrote:
Sometimes words can accomplish what swords cannot.


So true, Adela, and welcome to the Forum. In fact words such as 'I surrender' usually achieve peace.
excaelis
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Papal legate the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, at the siege of Beziers, 1209 :

Kill them all. God will know his own.
NeuroticHellFem
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excaelis wrote:
Papal legate the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, at the siege of Beziers, 1209 :

Kill them all. God will know his own.

Is that the origin of this saying? So all those tshirts with the grim reaper, caption: "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" are plagiarised from an abbot! I wouldn't tell the hairy scary guys who wear those tshirts that.
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those not having self esteem are broken before they enter any battle
excaelis
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NeuroticHellFem wrote:
excaelis wrote:
Papal legate the Abbot of Citeaux, Arnaud Amalric, at the siege of Beziers, 1209 :

Kill them all. God will know his own.

Is that the origin of this saying? So all those tshirts with the grim reaper, caption: "Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!" are plagiarised from an abbot! I wouldn't tell the hairy scary guys who wear those tshirts that.



Probably wise. They're probably not good Christians like Abbot Almaric. Angel
Verbatim
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Daemon wrote:
To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.

Sun Tzu (544 BC-496 BC)


"Supreme excellence", under the terms of the quotation, would rather be to know what comes after the enemy's resistance was broken: more enemies, perhaps?
monamagda
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From : Sun Tzu on Chapter 3 – Strategic Attacks


"Sun Tzu (literally translated Sun (proper noun) Sir) wrote Bing Fa - The Art of War about 2,500 years ago. Although Sun Tzu was very concerned about the cost of waging wars, his use of the word war was often misunderstood. To Sun Tzu, war did not revolve around fighting, but rather around determining the most effective and efficient way of conquering with the least amount of conflict. His strategies outlined how to win from an inferior position, how to conquer with limited resources and how to make the best of what you have. War, thought Sun Tzu, should be the last resort after all other alternatives have been exhausted."

http://www.leadacrosscultures.com/the-art-of-war.html#.VHJYptLF98E
striker
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don't underestimate your enemy
Fredric-frank Myers
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A master that should teach us all something, but of course we, the American white race, are superior to all others, and therefore what those "others" profess is just pure nonsense, right?
Dr WWWW
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In his wars, it's not what you do but how you do it.
Trivium_Discipulus
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Fredric-frank Myers wrote:
A master that should teach us all something, but of course we, the American white race, are superior to all others, and therefore what those "others" profess is just pure nonsense, right?


The Debt Money Monopoly, the majority ruling dElite of planet Earth, knows and heads the advice of Sun Tzu. They are all about controlling and manipulating their way to "winning."

Lower level useful idiots might by into the whole "gee, skin color is the major determinant of who a human is."

They are intellectual light weights who are motivated by emotional insecurity.

The Debt Money Monopoly promotes this as it feeds their divide to conquer methodology which has worked exceedingly well since Roman times.
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