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 A peace is of the nature of a conquest; for then both parties nobly are subdued, and neither party loser. William Shakespeare (1564-1616)
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The "peace" at the end of World War 1 led to the much worse second world war.
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In theory this is true, but you can't overlook human vanity. If the pride of a nation is wounded, that's an uneasy truce.
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Nobly is the word of the long-past times and probably already deceased in its meaningful sense... Who cares?
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I agree nobly is theword of long past times. It is also very true to say that, sadly, pride is seldom laid aside.
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Only when empathy trumps vanity will peace trump war.
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I'm pretty sure you're the victor if you do the conquering, even with all the management you have to take care of then.
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Probably he talks about women...
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Vit Babenco wrote:Probably he talks about women... The conquerors of this world should do much better once they understand that conquering the other country is like a man to win the heart of a woman. You have to love her, respect her, always, and both can have peace.
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Daemon wrote:A peace is of the nature of a conquest; for then both parties nobly are subdued, and neither party loser. William Shakespeare (1564-1616) But the profits... MUST HAVE PROFITS! War Is a Racket http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket.shtml
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The quote in context: From the play:"Henry IV" Part 2 → Act 4, At one part Henry chastises his enemy the archbishop for entering the war when he, as a man of God, should be a man of peace. The archbishop’s reply was a delightful excuse for his entering the war.SCENE II. Another part of the forest. Enter, from one side, MOWBRAY, attended; afterwards the ARCHBISHOP OF YORK, HASTINGS, and others: from the other side, Prince John of LANCASTER, and WESTMORELAND; Officers, and others with them ARCHBISHOP OF YORKTo you, my noble Lord of Westmoreland. WESTMORELANDI pledge your grace; and, if you knew what pains I have bestow'd to breed this present peace, You would drink freely: but my love to ye Shall show itself more openly hereafter. ARCHBISHOP OF YORKI do not doubt you. WESTMORELANDI am glad of it. Health to my lord and gentle cousin, Mowbray. MOWBRAYYou wish me health in very happy season; For I am, on the sudden, something ill. ARCHBISHOP OF YORKAgainst ill chances men are ever merry; But heaviness foreruns the good event. WESTMORELANDTherefore be merry, coz; since sudden sorrow Serves to say thus, 'some good thing comes to-morrow.' ARCHBISHOP OF YORKBelieve me, I am passing light in spirit. MOWBRAYSo much the worse, if your own rule be true. Shouts within LANCASTERThe word of peace is render'd: hark, how they shout! MOWBRAYThis had been cheerful after victory. ARCHBISHOP OF YORKA peace is of the nature of a conquest; For then both parties nobly are subdued, And neither party loser.LANCASTERGo, my lord, And let our army be discharged too. Read Shakespeare people!! http://shakespeare.mit.edu/2henryiv/2henryiv.4.2.html
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conquest is ugly
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As always, thank you Billy (I have often wondered if he was ever called "Billy", hum???) Your insight was and still is really remarkable.
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Quote:What a piece of work is a man! Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act II, Scene 2.
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Willie must not have seen nor heard much about war. Never ending greed and narcissism seem to be the root cause.
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