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Daemon
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I have had prayers answered - most strangely so sometimes - but I think our heavenly Father's loving-kindness has been even more evident in what He has refused me.

Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)
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Yeah, sometimes things we yearn for would do us no good and not having them is a bless! Pray
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Rejection is a skill as well as dealing with rejection… But if He uses soft words and hard arguments, why not?
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Refusal is good because it implies effort.
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One day, my child wanted a knife. It was pretty. Shiny. Mirror-like. He was only 1 1/2 years old. I refused him the knife. He could have cut himself with it.
One day, I asked God for something. It seemed good. It was attractive. It shone with beauty. I could not see the consequences of attaining what I asked for. God said no. I was not happy. Until I realized that had I gotten the answer I wanted, I would no longer be here today.
God said no, when I asked Him for a shiny knife. And that has made all the difference. I'm still here!
CheVegas ☁️ ✈ ☁️
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C'mon, Daemon, you can do better than this religious b.s.

Get out of your Farlex computer, and discover a world of informed ideas!

;-)
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This tale is almost certainly apocryphal:
Queen Victoria loved Alice in Wonderland so much, she wanted to read his next book as soon as it was written. Carroll sent her his next book, a book of mathematics, she was 'not amused'.

I love Jabberwocky. I find today's quote uninspiring, but I love his imaginative work.
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My experience totally.
Becky Nala
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Personally i don't rely on prayers. i just live my day to day life expecting the unexpected. Most people look to god's "presence" as an anchor for stability in their life, which in the long run creates more worries for the person.They have to deal with rejection as well as anxiety when their prayers are not answered , or when their waiting for them to be answered. Note that i am not an atheist because i do believe there is a higher power out there, but i don't believe in labeling the higher power, and relying on it for all my worries. If you believe in god GREAT! its your personal opinion, but i'm just putting mine out there. Pray
Becky Nala
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CheVegas ✈ wrote:
C'mon, Daemon, you can do better than this religious b.s.

Get out of your Farlex computer, and discover a world of informed ideas!

;-)


"Informed ideas" have also brought us horrible diseases, addictions, environmental pollution, pornographic pollution, corruptions, technological pollution that sickens any decent hu-man/woman being, warmongering, human-life-mongering, total mistreatment of flora and fauna on this beautiful planet Earth.

It's not about religions, but about spiritualism.
CheVegas ☁️ ✈ ☁️
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Becky Nala wrote:
CheVegas ✈ wrote:
C'mon, Daemon, you can do better than this religious b.s.

Get out of your Farlex computer, and discover a world of informed ideas!

;-)


"Informed ideas" have brought us horrible diseases, environmental pollution, pornographic pollution, corruptions, technological pollution that sickens any decent hu-man/woman being, warmongering, human-life-mongering, total mistreatment of flora and fauna on this beautiful planet Earth.


They've also brought answers to big questions, and CURED the sick! (Nothing in "holy" books about germs, bacteria, viruses, et al.)

Saying "God bless you" after a sneeze originated in darker times when it was believed that a demon (not Daemon!) flew down your gullet when your mouth was open.

P.S., "Warmongering?" Can you possibly be serious? More people have died in the name of religion than all other catalysts combined. Pray

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

...the Qur'an is no better. Worse, in fact. I've read both.
Milica Boghunovich
Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:34:52 AM
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CheVegas ✈ wrote:
Becky Nala wrote:
CheVegas ✈ wrote:
C'mon, Daemon, you can do better than this religious b.s.

Get out of your Farlex computer, and discover a world of informed ideas!

;-)


"Informed ideas" have brought us horrible diseases, environmental pollution, pornographic pollution, corruptions, technological pollution that sickens any decent hu-man/woman being, warmongering, human-life-mongering, total mistreatment of flora and fauna on this beautiful planet Earth.


They've also brought answers to big questions, and CURED the sick! (Nothing in "holy" books about germs, bacteria, viruses, et al.)

Saying "God bless you" after a sneeze originated in darker times when it was believed that a demon (not Daemon!) flew down your gullet when your mouth was open.

P.S., "Warmongering?" Can you possibly be serious? More people have died in the name of religion than all other catalysts combined. Pray

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

...the Qur'an is no better. Worse, in fact. I've read both.



Crusades, and other religious motivated wars as well as wars for economic, territorial domination.
CheVegas ☁️ ✈ ☁️
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Quote: "Crusades, and other religious motivated wars as well as wars for economic, territorial domination."

Yep...and religion gave "leadership" the leverage to orchestrate such campaigns. First, Constantine, who converted the Roman Empire to get the Christians on board against invaders from the north. And later, Richard Lionhearted, Mohammed, Saladin, the Ottoman Turks, etc.

Fighting in the name of "gods" is a great way to get poor, innocent people to fight for such stupid reasons. It's nothing new.

“All religions are equally sublime to the ignorant, useful to the politician, and ridiculous to the philosopher.” ― Lucretius
Milica Boghunovich
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CheVegas ✈ wrote:
Quote: "Crusades, and other religious motivated wars as well as wars for economic, territorial domination."

Yep...and religion gave "leadership" the leverage to orchestrate such campaigns. First, Constantine, who converted the Roman Empire to get the Christians on board against invaders from the north. And later, Richard Lionhearted, Mohammed, Saladin, the Ottoman Turks, etc.

Fighting in the name of "gods" is a great way to get poor, innocent people to fight for such stupid reasons. It's nothing new.

“All religions are equally sublime to the ignorant, useful to the politician, and ridiculous to the philosopher.” ― Lucretius


The quote confirms that corrupt people (both in power and below) who think their brain is all powerful always blame the Higher Power, but it is the people who are to be blamed because some pretend to be gods/goddesses that always find ways to blame something or somebody else for their own devious ways.
Milica Boghunovich
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"I have had prayers answered - most strangely so sometimes - but I think our heavenly Father's loving-kindness has been even more evident in what He has refused me."
Lewis Carroll (1832-1898)

Yes, Mr. Carroll wisely points out that we people would rather blame the Higher Power than admit own mistakes. The true belief in the Higher Power does not deny that Power once our prayer/s is/are not answered. What a fickle faith that is if we fail to believe every time our prayer is not answered." Sometimes it takes hundreds of years for hu-men and hu-women to admit their deviousness, and then prayers get answered. We hu-beings boast of the intelligent brain, but forget that it is a curse to even attempt to pretend to be God and let alone to attempt to control it. Even Einstein, one of the most brilliant brains in the hu-man/hu/woman history has realized that.
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I love Carroll's writing style. His classic stories will never be dated. I hope this site will continue to have articles such as this one.

Non believers of God appear to be Very angry people on this thread. It comforts me that I live in a country that was Founded upon Freedom OF Religion. The key word is OF, not FROM. Our Constitution will stand long after we depart the world. And yes, I thank our Founders and God for that.
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As a sensitive guy he could have made a lady happy. It is a shame it was not so. Or maybe not if he was gay by himself.

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Suggestions of paedophilia

It is true that the Reverend Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, otherwise known as Lewis Carroll, author of the inimitable classics Alice in Wonderland and Alice Through the Looking Glass, liked little girls. Or, as he once wrote: "I am fond of children (except boys)." He took exquisite, melancholy photographs of little girls. He befriended little girls on trains, and beaches, and in the houses of friends. And one particular little girl, Alice Liddell, came to be his muse and great passion.
Unfortunately for Dodgson, the 21st century does not look kindly on a single man who is beguiled by seven-year-olds. Feminist critics have darkly suggested that Dodgson was a paedophile. They have condemned the beautiful photographs he took and objected to his objectification of the immature female body, and read all sorts of rapacious nonsense into the Alice books. At the other extreme, many of Dodgson's defenders have protested too much. They have attempted to argue that he was utterly without feelings for little girls. One of his early biographers wrote, "There is no evidence that he felt or inspired any pangs of tender passion", when of course there was an abundance of evidence that he did. His defenders tend to portray him as a shy, stuttering bachelor with a fondness for children that may as well have been a fondness for stamps or porcelain puppies.

Alice_Liddell




http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/29/gender.uk
Gary98
Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2014 6:45:49 PM

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Not sure anything is the problem with him. Maybe just too sensitive. Does he has to like little girls with the evil thoughts of some wicked mind? Not necessarily.

He just need some of the coarseness common guys have too much of. And do the guy thing, like watch a little football.
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And the thoughts that this quote inspires in me is very close to sickening. For the person that posted this: "....I love Carroll's writing style. His classic stories will never be dated. I hope this site will continue to have articles such as this one.

Non believers of God appear to be Very angry people on this thread. It comforts me that I live in a country that was Founded upon Freedom OF Religion. The key word is OF, not FROM. Our Constitution will stand long after we depart the world. And yes, I thank our Founders and God for that....." We, as non believers are only angry with those of you that push your childish and dark aged superstition crap upon us. You have the right to live your life as you desire but please, take your childish stories along with your pedophile priests, and born-again nuts and stay home.
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Fredric-frank Myers wrote:
Non believers of God appear to be Very angry people on this thread.


Not angry. Frustrated, perhaps.

I feel like a "prophet." I'm cursed with seeing, very plainly, that all religions are fabricated by man.

Is there some sort of "god," source, center, or energy? I don't know...maybe. But it is positively NOT what has been presented to us by our human ancestors.

P.S., Our American Founding Fathers were not religious. If anything, a handful of them were Deists. If they had today's information, they're smart enough to not even be that. Unfortunately, many of today's politicians are atheists/agnostics who claim fealty to religion--w/o doing so, they probably wouldn't get elected. So, they must perpetuate ignorance in order to serve the public. Sad.
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