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Daemon
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He used statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts; for support rather than illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
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-lol- Statistics and logics are the left hemisphere's linear, verbal and analytical approach... Beauty is something perceived and experienced and not described or defined. Am I wright, mi'Lady?










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Much needed reproof. But is it wrong to use information, including statistics, to establish one's credibility? The audience, after all, needs to be won over.
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Liar
very smart
moniquester
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Daemon wrote:
He used statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts; for support rather than illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912)


Drunken men use lampposts for other things than just support...
Alexander Lo
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That drunken man is not that drunk at all. Make good use of available material is important in life.
Bully_rus
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to moniquester

After your post I'm finally enlightened how useful is a lamppost in comparison with that of statistics. Let there be light...
pedro
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:43:02 AM
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Daemon wrote:
He used statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts; for support rather than illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912)



This is a lovely quote! Almost a Churchillian put-down. I wonder if there isn't some academic rivalry at work here.
NeuroticHellFem
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LOL! Witty but useful comeback.
Gary98
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good one!Applause
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Brick wall If only old time statistics - now more powerful support instead of lampposts are crutches of the public relations. And forget the drunkards: this is an occupation for elite now. Shome Progress, isn't there?
John J. Gerhardt
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Quite an analogy.
GreenBanana
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Stop trying to take people down then.
Runi
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Haha. Desperate measures of desperate men.
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This quote is a variat from:
"Politicians use statistics in the same way that a drunk uses lamp-posts—for support rather than illumination."

"It was the Scots man of letters Andrew Lang who coined the perfect phrase to describe the way many politicians use statistics: “as a drunken man uses lamp-posts—for support rather than illumination.” Less colourful but just as heartfelt was the plea at the start of the election campaign from David Hand, the president of the Royal Statistical Society, for politicians to “use statistics in presenting and making their case”,but for such use to be “appropriate and accurate”.

http://www.economist.com/node/16050916
Trivium_Discipulus
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"Lies, damned lies and statistics" is false... Statistics don't lie, people who lie use statistics to further their lies... but they have to hide the data and the logic that resulted in the statistic because if one knows how the statistic was generated then one will be able to unearth the lie.

Milica Boghunovich
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"He used statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts; for support rather than illumination."
Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Discuss

Politicians, and all those corrupt and unilluminated.It depends who creates/ed particular statistics and for what reasons! Only Math fits valid deductive arguments, but statistics can fit weak inductive arguments.
nkelsey
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Applause
Miriam...
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I have to say that whenever a person begins to recite statistics
(whether
spoken or read), my brain sort of squeezes
down to the size of a pea; and soon, a pained feeling be
begins to descend, settling across my forehead and between
my eyes. Not long after this, I begin grimacing
and grinding my teeth. I have a fear I might begin
to froth at mouth because my ears seem hot and
begin to itch like I might have rabies...(?)
I pray: O King of the Universe, keep me away
from those who spew out statistics like they are
chewing on popcorn.

I like the part about beauty, posted by J. Ex., as
being something one perceives and experiences...etc.
Zippy
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Barry Obumbles comes to mind.
Vicki Holzknecht
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Lang just made me chuckle.
Corner of Josh
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:56:46 PM
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Few of us, on the left or right, change views and positions. Are we not all essentially guilty of using data to confirm pre-conceived ideas?
Verbatim
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Daemon wrote:
He used statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts; for support rather than illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912)


Statistics have been known to get "sexed up" in order to suit a presentation of facts which in turn is meant only to confirm something preconceived,
as Wisdom of Josh observed.

Regarding the case for the Iraq war this statement has become a classic: “the intelligence and facts are being fixed around the policy.”
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