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To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost. Options
Daemon
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To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)
Tovarish
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By this analogy, 'To be an academic, selfish and have good health one would be most unhappy',..... ridiculous.
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I agree with stupidity and good health but why is selfishness required for happiness?
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In ancient Greek, the word for this stupidity was paranoia, which had nothing to do with present associations of persecution but literally having another mind alongside one's own. Finally, it's only the selfish sanity that has been at fault.
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Agree with Gustave!
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I want to be stupid as long as the fifa soccer World Cup lasts, thank you.
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Yes, Flaubert is right : some people can't be perfectly happy unless they can relish the fact that other people are miserable. That is why stupidity is required.
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Daemon wrote:
To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)


Only the clever man can discern the advantages of stupidity. Is there a way back from wisdom to stupidity? Or is it only wishful thinking... kinda lack of wit?
Allan Fernandes
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Never seen so egocentrical statement from any french novelist like that. Maybe his personal story might've led him to affirm that but still, totally disagree
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We may bristle at Flaubert's observation, but he is right.
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Sorry Monsieur Flaubert!!! I can agree with you.

It doesn't matter if you're intelligent or stupid, but rather how hard you make it for yourself to achieve happiness. It is mostly a matter of personality and personal choice.

Since you wrote this quote in one of your Letters to Madame Louise Colet in a moment of intense passion, love tends to make us irrational at times and it completely defies logic.
Trivium_Discipulus
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MechPebbles wrote:
I agree with stupidity and good health but why is selfishness required for happiness?


So you don't have to worry about all the other stupid, selfish and UNhealthy people - duh!

There aren't many healthy people and, ironically, the reason is that most people are gullible (stupid?) and selfish (can't be bothered to investigate) so they allow "the authority" (which is a profit making sociopathic authority) lead them around by the nose.
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d'oh! ... Oh my god! He was lost when he wrote or said this!
Trivium_Discipulus
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Tovarish wrote:
By this analogy, 'To be an academic, selfish and have good health one would be most unhappy',..... ridiculous.


Why do you equate "academic" with the opposite of "stupid?"

The problem with academics is that they aren't smart enough to have challenged the premise of the foundation of their knowledge... hence you end up with completely fraudulent debt money based monetary and economic fraud foisted upon society and an "academic" class that is entirely nescient - like a little child reaching out to touch that cool looking red stove top.

Or a medical system based on Big Pharma profit maximizing sick care where filtering neurotoxic waste through children is seen as "intelligent."

The Money Power (Rockefeller crowd) seized control of academia and now it is simply a training camp for their ideology.

Since individual thinking is not profitable to them, most "academics" can't think outside those bounds constrained by their schooling.

I'm a big fan of education - learning HOW TO SYSTEMATICALLY THINK AND DIVIDE THAT WHICH IS REAL FROM THAT WHICH IS FALSE.

I'm disgusted by the Money Power counterfeit that is schooling - teaching people what the Money Power wants to know and occulting the simple process of systematically learning any subject and discerning truth from fiction.

Let's do a test - what is your systematic method of intellectual self-defense... surely you have one after 15,000 hours of schooling.

It you don't know instantaneously, you failed because you don't have one - and that goes to establish the point.

“We want one class of persons to have a liberal education (mind liberating), and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education (mind NOT liberated!) and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”
― Woodrow Wilson

"Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .”----Bertrand Russell,1953

"Education in a scientific society may, I think, be best conceived after the analogy of the education provided by the Jesuits. The Jesuits provided one sort of education for the boys who were to become ordinary men of the world, and another for those who were to become members of the Society of Jesus. In like manner, the scientific rulers will provide one kind of education for ordinary men and women, and another for those who are to become holders of scientific power. Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play." -----Read the book online here...[part 3, XIV, Education in a Scientific Society p.251]

"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen."
- Bertrand Russell quoting Johann Gottlieb Fichte, the head of philosophy & psychology who influenced Hegel and others – Prussian University in Berlin, 1810

Most "academics" are simply very proficient at repeating what they've been told.

They are very proficient at "carrying the water" of the establishment.

They are absolutely terrible at "thinking out of the establishment box" and, if they do, there is usually hell to pay... and the temperature of that hell is directly proportional to the amount of unwanted truth their thinking brings to light.
Trivium_Discipulus
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DOUGLAS CAMPOS wrote:
d'oh! ... Oh my god! He was lost when he wrote or said this!


My guess is that he was commenting based on observation.

Let me tell you... when you are chewing on the red pill at the bottom of the rabbit hole, life becomes much, much, much more complex and much less jovial.

Especially because of all the wilfully nescient and ignorant folks who allow the most sophisticated evil to run while until all hell breaks loose for the common person.

At that point, well, it is time to sit down a banquet of consequences for being stupid and selfish and UNhealthy (stupid and selfish people are rarely healthy in the current environment of the scientism for profit - everyone else's illness is simply too profitable for the smart people to pass up. How many of the Money Power class - Rothschild, Rockefeller, etc... and European royals have autism? You do know they use homeopathic and naturopathic health models, right? Read "Rockefeller Medicine Men" and you will find that out.).
Miriam...
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"To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost."

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)

I want to say that Flaubert is being facetious, but I think his words have more of a dark cloud about them.

I think it is a given that if one is not in good health, one can never truly be happy. For one is either in pain or discomfort physically, or one is forever worried about one's health, which pervades and undermines every happiness one might feel.

And then we have the 'selfish' and the 'stupid'. One is unaware of the misery and suffering in the world...and the other doesn't care.

The 'selfish' live with the malignant growth of one's self. Of course the do not see this; nor do they 'see' anyone else; for they are unable to grasp any other life except in regard as to how that life serves their life. As predators they circumvent all personal suffering, inconvenience, loss, expenditure--at the expense of others. Though they possess instinctual foresight and can sniff the air, long before wise, the outcome of a 'bad' or unpleasant situation, of which they are part of the context, their 'modus operandi' is to be the first to abandon ship or abort an alliance; for commitment and loyalty are not part of their 'code' of being; for honor is not something that can be comprehended and requires sentiments they are unable to feel.

The stupid live in their oblivion simply because they are stupid. They have no malice or greed, no hidden agendas...and the simple joys of life are enough to sustain and give happiness to their lives. And they see the world from this lens as well, and often times fail to comprehend the intricacies that convolute the lives of their fellow beings.

Farah Aloha surfer
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You sir, are a genius! Drool
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It's going to be hard to be happy now, knowing that I'm stupid and selfish.
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Daemon wrote:
To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)

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So that's why...
BasiaB
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Some money is also required.
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"Human beings need bitter with the sweet. When I was a lad knee high with a sod of turf, my gradfather Podge, God be good to him, he told me there was only one man in the town who was happy altogether: the village idiot." Darby O'Gill
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Ignorance is strength.
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Daemon wrote:
To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)



Imagine that: lacking something not desirable.
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We definitely need the " Explaining Satire " thread. Stat.
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Daemon wrote:
To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert (1821-1880)


One need not wonder, since stupidity seems to be its most desired ingredient, why happiness hardly ever mixes well with realism, Flaubert's in particular. Eh?

Of course, one must live like a bourgeois to be able to observe the bourgeois and realistically write about their "happiness".

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