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Khalid Sami
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:23:37 PM
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Hello,


I think, according to tdf, this is a cornice:



I wonder if what is shown in the following image (the decorative framework on the ceiling)is also called a cornice.



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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:33:37 PM

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Hi Sami!

No - I think that the 'plaster moulding' on the ceiling has a different name (but I don't know what it is!d'oh! ).

'Cornice' is only used for moulding at the top of a wall (or near the top).

You can see the cornice in your picture, between the wall and the ceiling, above the door and above the window.

EDIT to add:
The double circle on the ceiling is called the 'rosette' or 'ceiling rose', but I cannot find a specific name for the straight/square parts, just 'decorative plaster moulding'.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:36:18 PM

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I would think not.

A cornice is something that is overhanging, ie it goes outward as it goes up.

The central part is a ceilng rose, and I don't know about the rest, just decorative plasterwork, although there are sure to be special names for various bits - like coving.

This is something else also called a cornice, so you can see why I think it has to overhang...


Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:48:20 PM

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RamufAznag
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:21:12 PM

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Hi Khalid Sami!
The first one might be a corbel (possibly being a type of cornice). Anyway, just take a look at this page, browse through their products and decide what name you like best.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:51:30 PM

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Well from that lot, I'd say it was a doubly-recessed ceiling-panel containing a double rosette, surrounded by a cornice.

The details could be expanded, gong into the quarter-round corner-mouldings - four outside the panel and four inside it - and so on.
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:48:09 PM

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Here in the U.S. it is called a tray ceiling

Tovarish
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 9:49:58 PM
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Drago's explanation is correct for Australia too, a cornice is in the corner and a ceiling rose is on the ceiling, sometimes intricately painted.

The Realist
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:19:19 PM

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Yes, it is a cornice.

Go on google images, and it will show you what is qualified to be a cornice.
excaelis
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:26:26 AM

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No it's not. It is, as Ramuf said, a corbel.
LucOneOff
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:02:16 AM

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I think it's a decoratif bas-relief on the ceiling.
Alice M Toaster
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 11:34:33 AM

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According to the definition, a corbel supports a cornice (which has a number of definitions).
A tray ceiling and a ceiling panel seem to be the same things (in answer to Khalid's original question).
And the bit that goes around the room below the ceiling and above the door is crown molding.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:48:35 PM

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Definition of cornice noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
cornice
noun
(architecture)
a decorative border around the top of the walls in a room or on the outside walls of a building.



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Definition of corbel noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary
corbel
noun
(architecture)
a piece of stone or wood that sticks out from a wall to support something, for example an arch


IMcRout
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Anyway, this is a Corniche:



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