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Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
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One of the greatest thinkers of the Twentieth Century! This man changed my life for the better!

(Two more brilliant and influential 20th c. sons of Britain: Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins.)
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Is there love without fear to lose it?
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This statement is golden! But how do we get rid of fear? How do we stamp it out? It needs to be an individual battle.
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I would say: To conquer irrational fear is the beginning of wisdom.
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walirlan wrote:
I would say: To conquer irrational fear is the beginning of wisdom.


Good point. Sadly, it may be woven into our DNA via Natural Selection. The classic example of a False Positive:

If our progenitors believed that the rustle in the grass was a tiger when it was just the wind (a type I error), they were more likely to survive than if they believed that the rustle in the grass was just the wind when it was a tiger (a type II error).

Because the cost of making a type I error is less than the cost of making a type II error and because there is no time for careful deliberation between patternicities in the split-second world of predator-prey interactions, natural selection would have favored those animals most likely to assume that all patterns are real.
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Fear of the unknown has led to the invention of gods and religions.
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Wisdom, from one section of the TFD article about this great man:

Social Reformer

As with his philosophical stance, Russell's positions on social issues developed as a reaction against extremes in his own experience. He believed that cruelty and an admiration for violence grew from inward or outward defects that were largely an outcome of what happened to people when they were very young. Pacifism could not be effected politically; a peaceful and happy world could not be achieved without deep changes in education. "I believe that nine out of ten who have had a conventional upbringing in their early years have become in some degree incapable of a decent and sane attitude toward marriage and sex generally."

His objections to religion were similarly based. What he tried to draw attention to was the destructiveness of accepting propositions on faith—in the absence of, or even in opposition to, evidence. "The important thing is not what you believe, but how you believe it." The person who bases his belief on reason will support it by argument and be ready to abandon the position if the argument fails. Belief based on faith concludes that argument is useless and resorts to "force either in the form of persecution or by stunting and distorting the minds of the young whenever [it] has the power to control their education."

If Russell's logic was not always unassailable, his life showed that ethical relativism could be combined with a passionate social conscience, and that passionate commitment could be stated without dogmatism. In his autobiography (3 vol., 1967–69) Russell summarized his personal philosophy by saying, "Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."
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Astidkalis wrote:
Fear of the unknown has led to the invention of gods and religions.


Indeed, and thousands of them too. Humankind has a loooooong way to evolve.
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This man has justly described the first step towards religious freedom (meaning freedom from such a dreadful thing).
Applause 'Twas very well spoken, sir!
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"... the longing for love, the search for knowledge, and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."

I believe the above quotation should be indelibly etched into every human being's heart and soul.
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What a brilliant statement!

There is one thing I want to stipulate, in reply to his statement.

If your belonging to one religion is based on your fear, remember you are turning your religion to superstition.



Whistle
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An Outline of Intellectual Rubbish(1943)
By Bertrand Russell


"Other passions besides self-esteem are common sources of error; of these perhaps the most important is fear. Fear sometimes operates directly, by inventing rumors of disaster in war-time, or by imagining objects of terror, such as ghosts; sometimes it operates indirectly, by creating belief in something comforting, such as the elixir of life, or heaven for ourselves and hell for our enemies. Fear has many forms - fear of death, fear of the dark, fear of the unknown, fear of the herd, and that vague generalized fear that comes to those who conceal from themselves their more specific terrors. Until you have admitted your own fears to yourself, and have guarded yourself by a difficult effort of will against their mythmaking power, you cannot hope to think truly about many matters of great importance, especially those with which religious beliefs are concerned. Fear is the main source of superstition and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom, in the pursuit of truth as in the endeavor after a worthy manner of life."


Read more is excellent!!! http://www.personal.kent.edu/~rmuhamma/Philosophy/RBwritings/outIntellectRubbish.htm
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Obviously a very brilliant man living to the ripe old age of 108 years.

Op's, 10 years to many...d'oh!
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moniquester wrote:
This statement is golden! But how do we get rid of fear? How do we stamp it out? It needs to be an individual battle.


We can never get rid of fear, nor stamp it out. However, facing one's fear robs it of its power.

The paradoxical thing about fear is this: As one attempts to face one's fears, your fears are amplified until you shrink back from the attempt. It is then that you become afraid of being free from fear.

Once faced, however, fears dissolve into nothing, with confidence and self-assurance standing in their stead.
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Daemon wrote:
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)


Fear has no power unless we acknowledge it!

Fear, in or itself only exists in the mind. Its how we choose to react, or not react to the so called entity, that makes the difference!
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'Fear' also make us careful to move forward. Keep the fear under control.
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There is no doubt that Bertrand Russell was brilliant. But he wasn't good. He was aligned with the dark side and, while his "sheep suit" wisdom may be valuable, his strategic thinking to hurt the majority of society was simply wicked.

Read The Impact of Science of Society

"I do not pretend that birth control is the only way in which population can be kept from increasing. There are others, which, one must suppose, opponents of birth control would prefer. War, as I remarked a moment ago, has hitherto been disappointing in this respect, but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full. There would be nothing in this to offend the consciences of the devout or to restrain the ambitions of nationalists. The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of that? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s." (p. 26)

"...the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise.” (p. 30)

"Education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished." (Page 50)

"...most civilized and semi-civilized countries known to history and had a large class of slaves or serfs completely subordinate to their owners. There is nothing in human nature that makes the persistence of such a system impossible. And the whole development of scientific technique has made it easier than it used to be to maintain a despotic rule of a minority. When the government controls the distribution of food, its power is absolute so long as they can count on the police and the armed forces. And their loyalty can be secured by giving them some of the privileges of the governing class. I do not see how any internal movement of revolt can ever bring freedom to the oppressed in a modern scientific dictatorship." (Page 54)

"There are three ways of securing a society that shall be stable as regards population. The first is that of birth control, the second that of infanticide or really destructive wars, and the third that of general misery except for a powerful minority." (pps. 103-104)

"Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .” Bertrand Russell,1953

"Education in a scientific society may, I think, be best conceived after the analogy of the education provided by the Jesuits. The Jesuits provided one sort of education for the boys who were to become ordinary men of the world, and another for those who were to become members of the Society of Jesus. In like manner, the scientific rulers will provide one kind of education for ordinary men and women, and another for those who are to become holders of scientific power. Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play." -----Read the book online here...[part 3, XIV, Education in a Scientific Society p.251]

"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen." -----Bertrand Russell quoting Johann Gottlieb Fichte, the head of philosophy & psychology who influenced Hegel and others – Prussian University in Berlin, 1810

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/fascism/Bertrand%20Russell.htm

The guy was evil as Zbigniew Brzezinski is evil. Wicked smart, but also simply wicked.

Read Between Two Ages and you will read a book that sounds like it could have been written by Hitler if Hitler understood the tactical advantage of subtlety.
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Trivium,

I respect your argument regarding Russell, but what is your beef with Zbigniew Brzenzenski. He has not been a major player in USA politics since Jimmy Carter lost influence.
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We cannot eradicate fear until we are capable of love.
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What a powerful quote, I love it. This is the best this year so far.
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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
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Kenneth Epley wrote:
Trivium,

I respect your argument regarding Russell, but what is your beef with Zbigniew Brzenzenski. He has not been a major player in USA politics since Jimmy Carter lost influence.


Hi Ken,

Which explains a lot about why the common person is being eviscerated by the very people he refers to as the "elites."

His own words condemn him.

In no paerticular order...

"In addition... future developments may well include automated or manned space warships, deep-sea installations, chemical and biological weapons, death rays, and still other forms of warfare--even the weather may be tampered with.*

"In addition, it may be possible--and tempting--to exploit for strategic-political purposes the fruits of research on the brain and on human behavior. Gordon J. F. MacDonald, a geophysicist specializing in problems of warfare, has written that timed artificially excited electronic strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth.... In this way, one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period.... No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades."



"As one specialist noted, 'By the year 2018, technology will make available to the leaders of the major nations, a variety of techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised. One nation may attack a competitor covertly by bacteriological means, thoroughly weakening the population (though with a minimum of fatalities) before taking over with its own armed forces. Alternatively, techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm....(Gordon J. F. MacDonald, "Space," in Toward the year 2018, p.34). "



“The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.”

Note - isn't it interesting that Brzezinski played a key role in establishing and propping the Mujahadeen that transformed into al Qaeda and then created the pretext to set up the surveillance state (oligarchs spying on serfs, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND).



“In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era


Note - do you want to be manipulated and controlled because that's Brzezinski's deal.

Read Between Two Ages - it sounds a LOT closer to Hitler/Stalin/Mao than Jefferson or George Washington.

Brzezinski is a bad guy - even if the Bankster financed and controlled media portrays him as a good guy. Malcolm X was right on when he said...


“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”
― Malcolm X



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It is impossible to conquer fear, but is is possible to control it.

Daemon wrote:
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
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Daemon wrote:
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)


"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood."
-Check

But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
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Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
-Check

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Fear is a tactic to control and manipulate people, hence, society's all over the world are inundates with Bankster financed central state fear mongering campaigns.
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Exactly, Miriam: We cannot eradicate fear until we are capable of love. Without being capable of love, we are completely adrift.
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Trivium_Discipulus wrote:
There is no doubt that Bertrand Russell was brilliant. But he wasn't good. He was aligned with the dark side and, while his "sheep suit" wisdom may be valuable, his strategic thinking to hurt the majority of society was simply wicked.


Wow! Shame on you, Trivium Discipulus! Your credibility is shot!

Your comment is inane and misleading. And copied/pasted from some half-wit's religious website, no less! All taken out of context too! I doubt you've even read that (very short) book to which you're referring.

I'm no "fanboy," but I will protect the reputation of good, wise, and gentle people such as Russell. He may have made some mistakes--we all do--but he is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how you describe him. Get your head out of your butt.

Here's a more thoughtful review of The Impact of Science on Society taken from www.goodreads.com. The author of the review is also intelligent enough to put it into the context of the time, and to understand the personality of Russell:


"Having finally read this book, I must say that I am at a loss to explain why so many people hate it. It's pretty much what it says on the box: Russell considers the impact of science on society, and, unsurprisingly, argues that that impact has had both positive and negative aspects. Perhaps critics are reacting to the tone, which, as usual with Russell, is disengaged and ironic; this despite the fact that he believes that what he is saying is desperately important to our continued survival, as a civilization and possibly as a species.

On the positive side of the balance sheet, Russell has two main items. First, and I think most importantly to him, he argues that a scientific world-view, based on observation and logic, is better than one based on revelation and authority. Russell is a philosopher who passionately loves Truth as an abstract virtue. He prefers a system in which people strive to discover Truth ahead of one in which they believe what authority figures (kings, priests, politicians) tell them to believe. Second, he makes the obvious point that technology developed through science, in particular modern medicine, has vastly decreased human suffering over the last few hundred years.

"On the negative side, Russell pulls no punches when he describes how science can, and very often is, used as a tool of oppression. The more advanced technology becomes, the more it tends to concentrate power in the hands of a small elite. He makes reasonable projections about where this trend is likely to lead, and comes up with dismaying conclusions. Unless we can become less selfish, and develop a way to formulate and actually implement responsible global goals, we may not survive very much longer. Some people interpret this as arguing for the installation of a scientific world dictatorship, but I do not think the text supports that reading. Russell is simply saying that, if we don't get our act together and stop putting narrow partisan interests first, we are likely to destroy the planet. He explicitly says that he thinks the most likely outcome is that we will be unable to deviate from our current course, and that we will consequently choose death. Developments since the time of writing do not obviously invalidate his line of reasoning.

"As already noted, Russell likes to be ironic, and it seems to me that some people are not properly appreciating this. Please read the following key passage and decide for yourself what you think Russell's opinions are concerning the indoctrination of citizens by their governments:
I think the subject which will be of most important politically is mass psychology. Mass psychology is, scientifically speaking, not a very advanced study, and so far its professors have not been in universities: they have been advertisers, politicians, and, above all, dictators. This study is immensely useful to practical men, whether they wish to become rich or to acquire the government. It is, of course, as a science, founded upon individual psychology, but hitherto it has employed rule-of-thumb methods which were based on a kind of intuitive common sense. Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called "education". Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema and the radio play an increasing part.

"What is essential in mass psychology is the art of persuasion. If you compare a speech of Hitler's with a speech of (say) Edmund Burke, you will see what strides have been made in the art since the eighteenth century. What went wrong formerly was that people had read in books that man is a rational animal, and framed their arguments on this hypothesis. We now know that limelight and a brass band do more to persuade than can be done by the most elegant train of syllogisms. It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.

"This subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship. Anaxagoras maintained that snow is black, but no one believed him. The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to display a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark grey.

"Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician's paradise. Russell's book is short, and still very topical."
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Daemon wrote:
Fear is the main source of superstition, and one of the main sources of cruelty. To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)


Fear rises from doubt, is fed by imagination, and soon becomes self-propelled. Once stirred, can hardly be shaken.
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Chevegas wrote:
Trivium_Discipulus wrote:
There is no doubt that Bertrand Russell was brilliant. But he wasn't good. He was aligned with the dark side and, while his "sheep suit" wisdom may be valuable, his strategic thinking to hurt the majority of society was simply wicked.


Wow! Shame on you, Trivium Discipulus! Your credibility is shot!

Your comment is inane and misleading. And copied/pasted from some half-wit's religious website, no less! All taken out of context too! I doubt you've even read that (very short) book to which you're referring.

I'm no "fanboy," but I will protect the reputation of good, wise, and gentle people such as Russell. He may have made some mistakes--we all do--but he is the EXACT OPPOSITE of how you describe him. Get your head out of your butt.

Here's a more thoughtful review of The Impact of Science on Society taken from www.goodreads.com. The author of the review is also intelligent enough to put it into the context of the time, and to understand the personality of Russell:


"Having finally read this book, I must say that I am at a loss to explain why so many people hate it. It's pretty much what it says on the box: Russell considers the impact of science on society, and, unsurprisingly, argues that that impact has had both positive and negative aspects. Perhaps critics are reacting to the tone, which, as usual with Russell, is disengaged and ironic; this despite the fact that he believes that what he is saying is desperately important to our continued survival, as a civilization and possibly as a species.

On the positive side of the balance sheet, Russell has two main items. First, and I think most importantly to him, he argues that a scientific world-view, based on observation and logic, is better than one based on revelation and authority. Russell is a philosopher who passionately loves Truth as an abstract virtue. He prefers a system in which people strive to discover Truth ahead of one in which they believe what authority figures (kings, priests, politicians) tell them to believe. Second, he makes the obvious point that technology developed through science, in particular modern medicine, has vastly decreased human suffering over the last few hundred years.

"On the negative side, Russell pulls no punches when he describes how science can, and very often is, used as a tool of oppression. The more advanced technology becomes, the more it tends to concentrate power in the hands of a small elite. He makes reasonable projections about where this trend is likely to lead, and comes up with dismaying conclusions. Unless we can become less selfish, and develop a way to formulate and actually implement responsible global goals, we may not survive very much longer. Some people interpret this as arguing for the installation of a scientific world dictatorship, but I do not think the text supports that reading. Russell is simply saying that, if we don't get our act together and stop putting narrow partisan interests first, we are likely to destroy the planet. He explicitly says that he thinks the most likely outcome is that we will be unable to deviate from our current course, and that we will consequently choose death. Developments since the time of writing do not obviously invalidate his line of reasoning.

"As already noted, Russell likes to be ironic, and it seems to me that some people are not properly appreciating this. Please read the following key passage and decide for yourself what you think Russell's opinions are concerning the indoctrination of citizens by their governments:
I think the subject which will be of most important politically is mass psychology. Mass psychology is, scientifically speaking, not a very advanced study, and so far its professors have not been in universities: they have been advertisers, politicians, and, above all, dictators. This study is immensely useful to practical men, whether they wish to become rich or to acquire the government. It is, of course, as a science, founded upon individual psychology, but hitherto it has employed rule-of-thumb methods which were based on a kind of intuitive common sense. Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these the most influential is what is called "education". Religion plays a part, though a diminishing one; the press, the cinema and the radio play an increasing part.

"What is essential in mass psychology is the art of persuasion. If you compare a speech of Hitler's with a speech of (say) Edmund Burke, you will see what strides have been made in the art since the eighteenth century. What went wrong formerly was that people had read in books that man is a rational animal, and framed their arguments on this hypothesis. We now know that limelight and a brass band do more to persuade than can be done by the most elegant train of syllogisms. It may be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the State with money and equipment.

"This subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship. Anaxagoras maintained that snow is black, but no one believed him. The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of home is obstructive. Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of ten. Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to display a morbid taste for eccentricity. But I anticipate. It is for future scientists to make these maxims precise and discover exactly how much it costs per head to make children believe that snow is black, and how much less it would cost to make them believe it is dark grey.

"Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician's paradise. Russell's book is short, and still very topical."


Chevegas, why the emotional response. I recommend that you check you emotions and rely on intellect for your conclusions or else you are rip for deception.

After explaining the irrationalities in your reply, I will go on to explain why I've reached the conclusion I have reached - and the context I use is not enslaved to the words attached to the bindings in a book. Literacy is truly just another form of slavery until one applies critical thought to the text.

1. Even if I am wrong, that doesn't mean I've lost all credibility. That's irrational. You admit, in your view, that Russell made some mistake, yet you don't claim his credibility is shot. Why? When I expose the Money Power and the debt based monetary as a prima fascie usurious fraud am I wrong? Does $20 lent into society at 5% by the Money Power yield a societal debt of $21 after one year with the Money Power controlling the $1 (they "earned" the interest)required to make the debt extinguishable (and destroy the money supply)? Absolutely.

And best of all YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRUST ME, YOU CAN DO THE DARN MATH YOURSELF. My guess is that emotion based crimestop will prevent you from doing such, though. I hope I'm wrong. We are all victims of this debt money fraud.

If you think I'm wrong on this issue, do the rational thing and stay on topic. Don't use a logical fallacy (irrational logical lie) like ad hominem to attack me personally. It may feel good, but it is irrational and does zippo for your argument.

2. The quotes came from his book, not a religious website who took the quotes from his book and posted them. Again, rather than address the issue, you use another irrational ad hominem attack. Stay on topic.

3. My head is not in my behind. Again, emotional outbursts do nothing for improving everyone's understanding of a subject.

If you disagree with someone, then you should state your case and explicitly address the errors that you perceive.

You offered nothing of your own but a declaration about Russell's character.

Then you proffered an opinion piece.

In addition, you can ask the person what other data and logic they may have used to reach their opinion. My conclusions is not just based on a couple quotes that you declare to be out of context (but didn't bother to provide the context yourself).

But you didn't bother asking, rather, you went on an emotional outburst of attack, attack, attack using logical fallacies.

First off, I want to explain a Sun Tzu Art of War axiom that "war is all about deception."

Expecting bad people to write "Hi, I'm a bad guy" on their foreheads, or in their books, is incredibly naive. Yet, this appears to be your standard. If the author doesn't come out and blatantly say he's a bad guy, or works for the bad guys, then he can't be a bad guy.

Maybe, maybe not... but I don't think you've put any cognitive effort into the "maybe not" part of those two options. Without doing so, you conclusions are not very valid.

"All war is deception" ties in nicely to the concept of a "wolf disguised in sheep's clothing." Well, it isn't really clothing - so don't go insulting me about using that word, the point is that vicious wolves will pretend to be harmless sheep around those they are trying to deceive.

From wikipedia...

"Russell was a prominent anti-war activist; he championed anti-imperialism[61][62] and went to prison for his pacifism during World War I.[63] Later, he campaigned against Adolf Hitler, then criticised Stalinist totalitarianism, attacked the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War, and was an outspoken proponent of nuclear disarmament.[64] In 1950 Russell was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature "in recognition of his varied and significant writings in which he champions humanitarian ideals and freedom of thought".[65][66]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell

What's not to like, right? On the surface this sounds very good. Perhaps it is legitimate or, perhaps, it is simply "sheep's clothing" to conceal something even more dastardly. We don't know until we dig up the data and logic of the subject, matter, right?

From wikipedia...

"Bertrand Russell was born on 18 May 1872 at Ravenscroft, Trellech, Monmouthshire, into an influential and liberal family of the British aristocracy.[67]"

OK, given that the British Royalty runs a completely fraudulent debt based monetary system engineered to bankrupt, impoverish and starve common people, this is enough of a fact to demand further investigation. Russell is close the most powerful people on planet Earth and they are complete and total criminals at the top. This isn't my opinion. Debt based money is a complete fraud and the effects are for all rational people to see. That's another detailed subject, but it plays a role. If someone is hanging out with criminals who are hurting you AND NOT TELLING YOU ABOUT IT, just maybe they are a bad person aligned with the criminals.

Maybe not, but assuming their innocence without doing the research means you choose not to know the truth...

From wikipedia...

"Russell began his published work in 1896 with German Social Democracy, a study in politics that was an early indication of a lifelong interest in political and social theory. In 1896 he taught German social democracy at the London School of Economics, where he also lectured on the science of power in the autumn of 1937."

The London School of Economics is a key Debt Money Tyrant institution. Debt Money Fraud doesn't just happen - after all, 5th grade mathematics applied to lending is all it takes to understand the underlying fraud. The Debt Money Tyrants need to train up people to use Machiavellian rhetoric to dazzle the ignorati with BS... and the London School of Economics is ground zero for that effort... or darn close to it.

Note that he lectured on the "the science of power." Anyone that knows basic Econ 101 knows that he wasn't hired by the London School of Economics to teach people how to overthrow THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT FINANCED THE SCHOOL... THE SAME ESTABLISHMENT THAT HE WAS BORN INTO, EVEN IF NOT IN THE CENTER OF IT.

This is another BIG RED FLAG regarding Russell.

"A later conviction for publicly lecturing against inviting the US to enter the war on Britain's side resulted in six months' imprisonment in Brixton prison (see Bertrand Russell's views on society) in 1918.[98] While in prison, Russell read enormously, and wrote the book Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy.[99] He was reinstated in 1919, resigned in 1920, was Tarner Lecturer 1926, and became a Fellow again 1944–49.[100][clarification needed]
...
In 1924, Bertrand again gained press attention when attending a "banquet" in the House of Commons with well-known campaigners, including Arnold Lupton, who had been both a Member of Parliament and had also endured imprisonment for "passive resistance to military or naval service".[101]"

This seems to be a good work on Russell's part. I don't have anything bad to say about it - and it appears to be anti-establishment, something I sure wouldn't expect from him. I will ruminate on this in light of all the other data and logic.

From wikipedia...

"In August 1920 Russell travelled to Russia as part of an official delegation sent by the British government to investigate the effects of the Russian Revolution.[102] He met Vladimir Lenin and had an hour-long conversation with him."

Russell is now working for the government used by the Money Power to enforce their Debt Money Tyranny upon a nescient or ignorant society. Russell appears to be back in the establishment fold (if he ever left it).

A third red flag...

"Russell opposed rearmament against Nazi Germany, but in 1940 changed his view that avoiding a full-scale world war was more important than defeating Hitler. He concluded that Adolf Hitler taking over all of Europe would be a permanent threat to democracy. In 1943, he adopted a stance toward large-scale warfare, "Relative Political Pacifism": War was always a great evil, but in some particularly extreme circumstances, it may be the lesser of two evils.[110][111]"

Russell mediated his Pacifism... but did tell anyone who financed Hitler in the first place?

Most people will agree this is a good thing due to the Hitler threat, but WHO FINANCED HITLER? WHO set the stage for WWII with the oppressive conclusion to WWI?

Hitler was a bad guy, but there were other bad people who got away with WWI without being identified.

Brzezinski recommended reading Antony Sutton's work Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution in Between Two Ages (a truly sick book when you read it in full context). I'd recommend reading Antony Sutton's work Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler.

Wall Street... Money Power... International financiers... European Royalty...

From Wikipedia...

"Before World War II, Russell taught at the University of Chicago..."

The University of Chicago was CREATED BY ROCKEFELLER - A DEBT MONEY TYRANT. Russell is again in the employ of a Debt Money Tyrant. He's not there because he's adversarial to their criminal system. He could be ignorant of it... or he could be aligned with it. We need to research it.

From Wikipedia...

"He soon joined the Barnes Foundation, lecturing to a varied audience on the history of philosophy; these lectures formed the basis of A History of Western Philosophy."

Barnes is tied in with John Dewey who, on behalf of the Rockefeller Money Power interests, DESTROYED EDUCATION IN AMERICA AND COUNTERFEITED IT WITH OPERANT CONDITIONED appeal to authority schooling where the Money Power financed establishment taught students what the Money Power thought they should know instead of teaching students how to learn on their own.

“We want one class of persons to have a liberal education, and we want another class of persons, a very much larger class of necessity in every society, to forgo the privilege of a liberal education and fit themselves to perform specific difficult manual tasks.”
― Woodrow Wilson

Also reference the various works of John Taylor Gatto exposing how the Money Power incorporated the Prussian schooling model into American society in order to better control that society according to the Money Power agenda.

This is another red flag.

From Wikipedia...

"In the King's Birthday Honours of 9 June 1949, Russell was awarded the Order of Merit,[122] and the following year he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature.[64][75] When he was given the Order of Merit, George VI was affable but slightly embarrassed at decorating a former jailbird, saying, "You have sometimes behaved in a manner that would not do if generally adopted".[123]"

Russell is lavished with Debt Money Tyrant British Royal "goodies..." because he pleased the the criminal Royal family so.

You probably haven't researched the fraud that is debt based money foisted on us by criminals such as the Royals and their International Financier cohorts.

They mean nothing nice about slowly destroying freedom for the common person and enslaving us to a neo-feudal system through fraud. This is the crowd that bestowed "goodies" on Russell.

From Tragedy and Hope by Council on Foreign Relations insider historian Carroll Quigley...

"The Money Power Seeks to Create a World System of Financial

Control in Private Hands Able to Dominate Every Nation on Earth

In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
~Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, CFR Historian

The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline | James Perloff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_gj1uZ6194

BIG.

RED.

FLAG.

Quigley's assessment aligns nicely with the Rockefeller vision of hell on Earth for the common person...

“Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded, not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering a high morale and community propose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.”
~David Rockefeller, New York Times, 1973.

These people are criminal sociopaths and they mean to do you harm. Impoverishing and starving the Third World IS DEBT MONEY POLICY.

Hitler stuck people in ghettos and put authoritarian controllers over them to deny them resources to starve them out.

Watch (Netlfix or Youtube) A Film Unfinished to see actual footage of what that criminal Hitler did to those poor people.

Now watch (Netflix or Youtube) Empire in Africa to see what the Rockefeller founded, Money Power controlled United nations does to Third World countries... they install authoritarian controllers to deny the common people resources and starve them out.

The only difference is that they don't need fences and they follow Hitler's methodology covertly at the nation state level instead of within a city like Warsaw.

Are you sure you've done your research and simply view reality as it is, not as you wish it were?

From Wikipedia...

"In September 1961, at the age of 89, Russell was jailed for seven days in Brixton Prison after taking part in an anti-nuclear demonstration in London, for "breach of peace". The magistrate offered to exempt him from jail if he pledged himself to "good behaviour", to which Russell replied: "No, I won't."[124][125]

In 1962 Russell played a public role in the Cuban Missile Crisis: in an exchange of telegrams with Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, Khrushchev assured him that the Soviet government would not be reckless.[126] Russell sent this telegram to President Kennedy:

YOUR ACTION DESPERATE. THREAT TO HUMAN SURVIVAL. NO CONCEIVABLE JUSTIFICATION. CIVILIZED MAN CONDEMNS IT. WE WILL NOT HAVE MASS MURDER. ULTIMATUM MEANS WAR... END THIS MADNESS.[127]

According to historian Peter Knight, after JFK's assassination, Russell, "prompted by the emerging work of the lawyer Mark Lane in the US ... rallied support from other noteworthy and left-leaning compatriots to form a Who Killed Kennedy Committee in June 1964, members of which included Michael Foot MP, Caroline Benn, the publisher Victor Gollancz, the writers John Arden and J. B. Priestley, and the Oxford history professor Hugh Trevor-Roper. Russell published a highly critical article weeks before the Warren Commission Report was published, setting forth 16 Questions on the Assassination and equating the Oswald case with the Dreyfus affair of late 19th-century France, in which the state wrongly convicted an innocent man. Russell also criticized the American press for failing to heed any voices critical of the official version.[128]"

These anecdotes put Russell in a good light. Again, they have to be taken in context.

He's aligned himself with the criminal Money Power while criticizing some of their actions but not exposing the system at play.

We must not forget that Vladimir Lenin once observed, "[t]he best way to control the opposition is to lead it."

So, we have a Bertrand Russell who hangs out with the "elites" that Zbigniew Brzezinski and Carroll Quigley claim run the world (into the ground... mass poverty, mass death, monetary fraud, etc...), yet he ostensibly countered some parts of the elite agenda without ever addressing the SYSTEM that enabled the "elites" to consistently maintain power regardless of which party they financed into office.

"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy."
- Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope

Nothing has really been proved at this point... Russell might just be ignorant of the system that is at play as is the case with the vast majority of people that roll up into this system.

From Wikipedia - Fabian Society

"Immediately upon its inception, the Fabian Society began attracting many prominent contemporary figures drawn to its socialist cause, including George Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, Annie Besant, Graham Wallas, Charles Marson, Hubert Bland, Edith Nesbit, Sydney Olivier, Oliver Lodge, Leonard Woolf and Virginia Woolf, Ramsay MacDonald and Emmeline Pankhurst. Even Bertrand Russell briefly became a member, but resigned after he expressed his belief that the Society's principle of entente (in this case, between countries allying themselves against Germany) could lead to war.

At the core of the Fabian Society were Sidney and Beatrice Webb. Together, they wrote numerous studies[8] of industrial Britain, including alternative co-operative economics that applied to ownership of capital as well as land."

Let's take a look at the icons the Fabian Society chose for themselves...

The Fabian Society Exposed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-OxtJYJ9g

History… The Last Will of Cecil Rhodes and the Anglo-American Establishment
https://www.tragedyandhope.com/history-the-last-will-of-cecil-rhodes/

As with most things, I take exception with some of the video - the implication that a given person will do a given thing even when they say they will. The system is above any one personality.

“In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Exploit, control, manipulate...

“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Controlled, unrestrained elite, continuous surveillance...

All words used to describe a free republic that would make George Washington proud, right?

No, these are the "fruits" of the Money Power and Brzezinski's "vision" propelled him to the top of the Money Power's technocratic elite...

The Milner-Fabian Conspiracy
http://milnerfabianconspiracy.net/0/introduction.htm

(keep clicking next)

So, WHO were these Fabians, these self described wolves in sheep's clothing, that Russell chose to join with in their effort to "form the world" through stealth?

Beatrice Webb (about 10 minutes or so, but viewing all 5 parts of the interview are highly recommended)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGYyV7yMpY&t=19m20s

From Wikipedia - Beatrice Webb, Eugenicist (essentially the solution to the poor (most impoverished through debt money fraud imposed on them by the "elites" Russell rubbed shoulders against) was to kill them off)

"At its peak of popularity, eugenics was supported by a wide variety of prominent people, including Winston Churchill,[102] Margaret Sanger,[103][104] Marie Stopes, H. G. Wells, Norman Haire, Havelock Ellis, Theodore Roosevelt, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Robert Andrews Millikan,[105] Linus Pauling[106] and Sidney Webb.[107][108][109] Its most infamous proponent and practitioner was, however, Adolf Hitler, who praised and incorporated eugenic ideas in Mein Kampf and emulated Eugenic legislation for the sterilization of "defectives" that had been pioneered in the United States.[110]"

Sidney was Beatrice's husband and fellow Fabian Socialist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

The Money Power also used the Fabians to create the London School of Economics... Bertrand's employer at one time.

Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw In His Own Words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3lBdyFvPps

"Get rid of your Constitution..." ~George Bernard Shaw

From Wikipedia...

"Through the course of the 20th century the group has always been influential in Labour Party circles, with members including Ramsay MacDonald, Clement Attlee, Anthony Crosland, Richard Crossman, Tony Benn, Harold Wilson and more recently Shirley Williams, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Gordon Marsden and Ed Balls. The late Ben Pimlott served as its Chairman in the 1990s."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Ed Balls... Fabians the lot of 'em. If like Britain being financially r*perd and pillaged by the supranation banking cartel, Brzezinski's "unrestrained elites," and the neo-feudalism that is being set up by this fraudulent Debt Money Tyranny System, then you like the club that Bertrand Russell chose to hang out with... BECAUSE THIS IS THEIR GOAL.

WHO employs Tony Blair today? That would be J.P. Morgan Chase, fulfilling the words of Carroll Quigley previously quoted...

In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
~Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, CFR Historian

Aldous Huxley spoke of the Fabian methodology in his Ultimate Revolution speech (his brother was the first head of Money Power created and controlled UNESCO)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RiRfMYVlQ

Aldous' student, Eric Blair, AKA George Orwell, also wrote of the Fabian method when he included "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism" depicted in his book 1984.

So, is Russell a good guy?

He cavorts with deceptive, criminal minded people who lie for a living. His club believes they are wolves in sheep's clothing. They're desire is to ruin people through dependency... the wolf... while convincing people they are actually there to help. They despise poor - most of whom are that way because of Debt Money fraud imposed upon a nescient, ignorant and gallactically gullible population.

He speaks of methods used to ruin the cognitive ability of people. He speaks of ways to manipulate and harm the masses - BUT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY SELF DEFENSE MECHANISMS THAT THE GENERAL POPULATION CAN EMPLOY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM...

...BERTRAND RUSSELL'S BUDDIES AND CLUB MEMBERS.

That's a partial expose of the data and logic I used to reach my conclusion.
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