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Daemon
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:00:00 AM
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A friend is a second self.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)
Bully_rus
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:57:11 AM
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Perhaps it's connote the confidential closeness of friends but is there need for second, third or fourth selves?
thar
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:40:37 AM

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That seems a terribly self-centred way of thinking about it!
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:49:03 AM

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He's just saying we share many commonalities with our friends, which is the basis of the relationship in the first place. Hence, a "second self."
thar
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:21:16 AM

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My friends are very different from me in many ways. If they were too similar, the relationships would be extremely boring and stultifying. And slightly vain!
Kathy Hall
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:58:16 AM

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actually I think it's the opposite of selfish. you develop your own self and extend opinions and your mind through your friend. through a friend you contact more people. it's like, you have your own values and you could be selfish and only ever think on those and promote those, or you could listen and grow through a friend and have a whole second side of yourself. a place where your heart beats outside your body. I'm not sure if I'm explaining what I mean rightlyd'oh! , but perhaps someone can abstract from this some notion of unselfishness? :)
monamagda
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:14:56 AM

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I know this quote as being from the book "De Amicitia" - ("On Friendship"-Treatises on Friendship and Old Age)
(44 B.C.)by Marcus Tullius Cicero.

"Amicus est tamquam alter idem!. (A friend is, as it were, a second self)

We found it in this context in part 7
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And great and numerous as are the blessings of friendship, this certainly is the sovereign one, that it gives us bright hopes for the future and forbids weakness and despair. In the face of a true friend a man sees as it were a second self. So that where his friend is he is; if his friend be rich, he is not poor; though he be weak, his friend's strength is his; and in his friend's life he enjoys a second life after his own is finished. This last is perhaps the most difficult to conceive


check it out here :http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/cicero-friendship.asp
AndersonBR
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:16:33 AM

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I disagree. Each person is unique and there isn't another self. A friend might knows a lot of things about us, but only ourselves know what we really are.
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:48:45 AM

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thar wrote:
My friends are very different from me in many ways. If they were too similar, the relationships would be extremely boring and stultifying. And slightly vain!


Concordo plenamente com você!! Obrigada!

I agree totally with you!! Thanks!
xKeVyOx
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:13:24 PM

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Chevegas wrote:
He's just saying we share many commonalities with our friends, which is the basis of the relationship in the first place. Hence, a "second self."




@Chevegas, Ok, point taken, but you didn't have to shout.
Norman Udall
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:26:14 PM

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after reading the above comments I never realized My friend and I were so complex.
Dr. Mohammed Albadri
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 5:08:39 PM

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A friend in need is a friend indeed.
RamufAznag
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 6:38:56 PM

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Greek Philosophers: 3000 years making people think!



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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:46:54 PM
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Daemon wrote:
A friend is a second self.

Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC)


Hard enough to put up with one self, perish the thought of making one's friend into a second self.Shame on you
capitán
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 11:11:41 PM

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