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Luker4
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:15:03 AM

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Japan's Annual Penis Festival.

I haven't heard of this and think it's strange from European point of view, what do You think ?

It's from From huffingtonpost

Here

Eng. Fawad Ahmad
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:08:41 AM

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Very strange and inanity!
Human can be that much cheap minded, never thought! We need to secure the world, give food to needy people, solve global warming, end wars, and serve humanity rather than doing likewise useless celebration and attending wired events.
Shame on them!!!!
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The Japanese are well known for being more open about sex.
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Bertoray
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:09:46 AM

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I perused the link. Apparently the festival is not for members only.
Epiphileon
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:37:08 AM

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And I just thought this was the guy's name. Who knew?



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omicrom
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:14:54 AM

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Eng. Fawad Ahmad Fozan Kakar wrote:
Very strange and inanity!
Human can be that much cheap minded, never thought! We need to secure the world, give food to needy people, solve global warming, end wars, and serve humanity rather than doing likewise useless celebration and attending wired events.
Shame on them!!!!


We need some inanity now and then to endure this vale of tears
Besides it makes no sense to you but surely has plenty of meaning for them. There is a local festival in Spain which its high point is to throw a poor goat from the bell tower of the church. Does it make any sense for you? At least japanese festival harms no living creature.
Luker4
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:32:35 AM

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poor goats! Anxious

.........Well it's a good thing that "manhood" is celebrated somewhere Dancing in such open manner I think. Better this than killing some animals.

MechPebbles
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:25:31 AM

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omicrom wrote:
We need some inanity now and then to endure this vale of tears
Besides it makes no sense to you but surely has plenty of meaning for them. There is a local festival in Spain which its high point is to throw a poor goat from the bell tower of the church. Does it make any sense for you? At least japanese festival harms no living creature.

___________________________________


You're absolutely right, omicrom.
TheParser
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:08:17 PM
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Thank you, Luker, for the article (or actually, the photographs).

It is nice to read about a society that does not go hysterical when it comes to hetero- , homosexual romance.

Haz
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:53:06 PM

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Yes, we need more willies lol.

We have women's bodies being paraded to us in our sleep these days. It's good to have a bit of balance. Nudity shouldn't be seen as shameful, dirty, rude or perverse. Sad really.

A true story (if you are of a delicate disposition, you may not wish to read this):

Many years ago, when I was in my young 20s, a 'girlie' mag for girls was brought into the public arena. There was many a protest; 'we don't need mags of men for girls, we need to stop the mags of girls for men' protests.

Anyway, I 'rushed' out to buy one and take it to my 'mainly' female colleagues in an office of about 35 people.

There were so many varying comments from, 'oh Haz, you're terrible', 'what a disgrace', 'I wanna see', 'oooohhh he's nice', to hysterical laughter.

I have to say, the magazine was exceptionally bland, with pictures of naked men posed in various backgrounds from a farmer boy to a car mechanic, with their privates delicately placed to be viewed from the best angle (sorry but I couldn't stop giggling myself). It was nothing like the men's porno mags I had seen.

Anyway, I digress. The fact is that most of the girls appeared to be so against such a production and berated me for purchasing a copy.

After my eight hour shift and whilst collecting my stuff together to leave, I could find very little left of my magazine. It had been dissected and distributed stealthy and covertly whilst no one was watching. Shame on them. LOL

ps: there was never another production of the magazine (or any since to my knowledge)!!!!

Luker4
Posted: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:05:29 PM

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thanks for sharing Haz Applause

My friend thinks that those "japs are nuts" and he's as young as me (mid-twenties)

but I think that people should be more open and tolerant, thus we would avoid many misunderstandings.
TheParser
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 5:18:52 AM
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luker4 wrote:


My friend thinks that those "---- are nuts."




Hello, Luker:

I am sure that you already know this, but just in case ...

That short word to describe that ethnic group is very offensive and you would be in BIG trouble if you used it (even to quote a friend).

Of course, when I was a child during World War II, people used that epithet all the time.

Today, however, sensitivity to people's feelings are super important here in the States. For example, some sports announcers recently got into trouble because they (innocently?) used the term "Oriental" to describe a Chinese athlete.


James


I raise this point only because I know how serious you are about learning English.
Luker4
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:12:57 AM

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Thank You.

but come to think of it Think why is this supposed to be offensive ? it sounds like a shorter word for "Japanese" Think

like a "Brit" for a British person and my dictionary says that "brit" is not offensive but informal.


so why saying "a Brit" is informal and saying "a Jap" is offensive, why aren't they both offensive or vice versa ?



TheParser
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:44:45 AM
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luker4 wrote:
Why is this supposed to be offensive ? it sounds like a shorter word for "Japanese"








I am not educated enough to give you an answer to your EXCELLENT question. Hopefully, a scholar will soon give the answer to you -- and me!

I have learned from experience, however, that in American English, SHORT words for ethnic groups often are considered (and sound) offensive.

For example, I personally ALWAYS refer to a "Jewish person." Yes, I know that Jewish people themselves have no problem using the first three letters of the adjective "Jewish" to refer to themselves, but there are some non-Jewish people who pronounce those three letters with a very nasty tone.

Regarding the Japanese, besides "J --," another very offensive term was coined from using the first three letters from the word "Nippon," which the dictionary says is the Japanese name for that beautiful and mostly crime-free country!

And, of course, American servicemen returning from the Korean and Vietnamese wars had some very unpleasant terms for the people living there.

I imagine that this is standard practice everywhere. I am guessing that the Ukrainians have some choice terms to refer to Russians, and vice versa.

Insults, of course, are based on fear. When we fear a group, we try to protect ourselves by using epithets.



James

P.S. I have just learned an acceptable epithet for a b ---- (an obnoxious female). The word is "wench." Apparently, the American media will publish that word.
omicrom
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:01:15 AM

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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=JAP&searchmode=none

Jap Look up Jap at Dictionary.com
Colloquial abbreviation of Japanese, by 1880 as a noun, 1892 as an adjective, not originally pejorative but became so during World War II. It was protested by Japanese before the war, but did not begin to be taboo in the U.S. before 1960s. For some years after World War II in American English the word also functioned as a verb, "to execute a sneak attack upon," a reference to Pearl Harbor.

Luker4
Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:19:38 AM

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thank You

what about the word "Brit" ? First I came across this word in a Robert Ludlum book "Tristan betrayal" (if I remember corectly) I didn't need a dictionary to get the meaning Dancing.

It's is like the word "Pole" right ? Think or not ?


(this maybe a good joke I made up while thinking about these short names: How to call a Polish person living in the north part of Poland -- a north pole Dancing

in that case I would be a south pole Whistle )



TheParser
Posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 7:35:27 AM
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luker4 wrote:


what about the word "Brit" ?






Hopefully, a Brit will soon answer you.

I CAN tell you that American (and British) publications use that term without any qualms.

*****

There is a word, however, for a British person that seems to be mildly offensive and I should suggest that you never use it.

It is based on a four-letter word for a certain citrus fruit. British sailors many years ago were suffering from a certain disease. When they started to eat this fruit, however, the disease vanished. So the term was coined.

*****

When I was young, in the 1950's, many Americans used mildly offensive terms without any qualms. One term was used for Polish people.

Of course, refined people (such as I!) never used it. I was just checking my dictionary today, and I discovered that it apparently was just a rude pronunciation of an actual word in the Polish language: "polak."

Furthermore, back in those unenlightened days, comedians on TV were not afraid to tell so-called Polish jokes. The goal of these "jokes" was to show that Polish people were not especially intelligent! If you do some googling, you can find some of the more popular Polish jokes.



James


P.S. I am glad that you want to learn about cultural matters along with grammar. Some students feel that their textbooks are sorely lacking in this regard.
Luker4
Posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:33:45 AM

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yes Whistle in the first scene of Bruce Almighty they showed semi-inteligent people from "Kowalski family". Whistle

and Bart Simpson said something about Poland in The Simpsons, but I didn't get that joke Dancing



















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Posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:05:59 AM
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Parsar -

the word 'wench' is not a synonym for the word 'bitch'. A wench is just the old English word for woman, and is still in circulation. It's often used in a fond, teasing or playful way. Besides, there's nothing objectionable in calling a woman 'woman'. Calling a woman an animal, as in 'bitch' is quite another thing altogether.

Luker -

Personally, I absolutely HATE being called a Brit. But that's just me and my friends, I guess because, as Parsar said, it's quite acceptable, it seems.

I think it's because Britain is composed of more than one country so calling someone British doesn't actually define which country they are from. When living or travelling overseas, if people ask where one is from people don't say 'Britain' but 'Ireland', 'Scotland' etc. Each of the countries which make up Britain is fiercely proud of their country...and each has its own culture, history, languages - and have gone into battle against each other. So we identify as English, Irish, Scots or Welsh.

Many of those living in some of the 53 British Commonwealth countries outside of Great Britain also refer to themselves as British too, y'know, so saying one is a Brit could mean one came from any one of 57 different countries scattered all over the world and really doesn't define a person or identify them at all.

Maybe that's why.

As to the 'Limey's' thing Parsar almost mentioned ( when he spoke about 'a certain citrus fruit' as though even the fruit itself was a bad word!) I'm not sure that people were TOO offended by it, actually. It was an American term and much used during WW2 so it used to get on people's nerves, but I'm not sure if they were 'offended' by the word, or simply the ignorance of those using it. And certainly no-one has ever minded being called a Pom or Pommy which is what Australians call the British. (The British just call Australians Bruce.)

I expect, with any name, it depends on HOW it is said and with what intention: it isn't the word itself so much.
Luker4
Posted: Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:36:17 AM

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wench Think nice word.

[Quote:]
wench (wĕnch)
n.
1. A young woman or girl, especially a peasant girl.
2. A woman servant.
3. A wanton woman.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wench

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luker4 wrote:
Japan's Annual Penis Festival. I haven't heard of this and think it's strange from European point of view, what do You think ?


To a modern Westerner it may seem strange but lascivious fertility rites were very well known in most cultures. Famously the festival of Lupercalia in the Roman Empire :

"Lupercalia, of which many write that it was anciently celebrated by shepherds, and has also some connection with the Arcadian Lycaea. At this time many of the noble youths and of the magistrates run up and down through the city naked, for sport and laughter striking those they meet with shaggy thongs. And many women of rank also purposely get in their way, and like children at school present their hands to be struck, believing that the pregnant will thus be helped in delivery, and the barren to pregnancy." ( Plutarch quoted in Wikipedia)
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Bertoray wrote:
I perused the link. Apparently the festival is not for members only.


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