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NirmalPriyaVishnu
Posted: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:32:09 AM

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I am going to find the problem.
I am going to figure out the problem. (I guess, this sentence is 100% correct)

I am going to find the problem (shall I use this or not)

Please share your thoughts.
Shivanand
Posted: Thursday, March 6, 2014 5:27:09 AM
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Hi ramannirmal again!

I am going to find the problem : Do you want to find out what the problem is OR you want to solve the problem? The answer depends on that. If it's the former, then you may say "I am going to find out what the problem is".

Figuring out is normally solving the issue!



Cheers!
IMcRout
Posted: Thursday, March 6, 2014 7:41:43 AM
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For the most part I agree with shiv, but 'figuring out' to me means finding out what has caused the problem, i.e. the lights do not work and you have found out that it's not the light bulb, but the fuse that has blown.
Yet you still have to wait for the shops to open to buy a new fuse / circuit breaker.
It is still dark.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:49:26 PM

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Amazing!
I had never realised there were so many steps.

It is dark - that is the situation, not the problem.

If you look around and find that the lights don't work at all, you have "figured out what the problem is" or "found the problem".
(A problem can usually be stated as an intention or purpose with a barrier, "I want to see, but the lights don't work.")

You look further and find that the fuse has blown - you have "figured out the cause of the problem" or "found the cause of the problem" or "found what's wrong".
Sometimes, people will say "Ah! I've found the problem - the fuse has blown!".
This is slightly imprecise, but is perfectly acceptable English.

When you change the fuse, and the lights come on, you have "solved the problem" or "fixed the problem".
NirmalPriyaVishnu
Posted: Thursday, March 6, 2014 11:18:44 PM

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So my understanding is

Stage 1 : To find the problem (I guess, here I can use “FIND”)

Stage 2: Analyze the root cause of the problem (I guess, here I can use “FIGURE OUT”)

Stage 3: Based on the analysis, we implement our solution to the problem and fix it.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Friday, March 7, 2014 12:43:50 AM

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Hi Raman.

Yes that's a good summary.

There are other phrases you could use (but which ones you use depend on whether you are talking about a physical problem, or one which is totally 'metaphysical' or mental).

For stage one, one might use "spot" or "see" the problem. For a purely theoretical/metaphysical situation, you might even use "recognise" the problem.

For stage two, your choice "analyse" is probably the most exact. "Figure out" is very common.

For stage three, 'solve', 'fix', 'handle' are all common phrases.

"Find', 'figure out' and 'fix' seems to be good 'alliterative' sequence!
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