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Daemon
Posted: Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:00:00 AM
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Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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So much for active listening :-)
Haameem
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 12:39:47 AM

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The opinion of a person is tantamount to his own experience. The wisdom of a fool is behind his tounge and the tounge of a wise is behind his wisdom.And the person whose tongue rule over him ,decides his destruction and death.There came many problems when someone talks,one should take care the time when is essential to speak and when is better to keep quiet.
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 12:41:15 AM

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They say I am a virtuous man....

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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 1:12:31 AM

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Daemon wrote:
Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


I agree; however, we were given two ears and only one mouth. Shouldn't we listen twice as much as we speak?
Trivium_Discipulus
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 2:30:40 AM
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Professor wrote:
Daemon wrote:
Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


I agree; however, we were given two ears and only one mouth. Shouldn't we listen twice as much as we speak?


And even if we are smart enough to listen... can we do so without letting our prejudices (not just race, people, we have all kinds of prejudices about all kinds of things) distort the intended message?
jacobusmaximus
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 5:26:13 AM

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Proverbs 17:28 NIV

Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue.
Bully_rus
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 6:18:57 AM
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Daemon wrote:
Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


Especially when you have something important to say, like "I love you!" or "Where's my coffee, dear?" and so forth.
vijayendra kumar sinha
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:09:29 AM

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what if a wise maintains silence?
dulcinian
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 7:58:31 AM

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Don't agree at all.
Gustavo de S Consoni
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:07:37 AM

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investigation is very important. Without investigation you can break the silence but at risk to commit a huge mistake! sometimes to be in silence is to be wiser!
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This statement is far too general to agree or disagree with. But since everyone is subjective, my first thought was: I agree. Silence is not golden. Except when you need to break away from it all, of course.
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 9:12:00 AM

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In Poslih we say "silence is gold, talking is silver and listening is platinum"

basically one must think in silence before saying something wise.

of course small-talk is a diffrent story Whistle


it depends on what purpose this silence is supposed to achieve Think
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vijayendra kumar sinha wrote:
what if a wise maintains silence?
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:37:25 AM
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frank thomas wrote:
vijayendra kumar sinha wrote:
what if a wise maintains silence?

Do you remember the "DARK AGES"?
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Have three kids. Then we'll see how many plays you get written for Shakespeare to sign.
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 12:25:49 PM
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The key word here is "virtue". Talk while you can fool, because soon you will be dead.
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 12:30:21 PM
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"He gives wisdom to whom he wills, and whoever has been given wisdom has certainly been given much good"
"Who believes in God and the Last Day either speak good or keep silent"

I think silence is not simple, it involves many other things such as wisdom, freedom, culture, respect, position in society or family...
Silence is the virtue of fools for sure, but it's also some kind of showing wisdom, sometimes silence is the best answer, besides that I also believe that silent people are the best listeners, which makes them the best learners and then the wisest ones, so we gain wisdom when we are silent, and when we are wise enough we know the right words to say and the right time to quit silence.
Let's talk about freedom, everyone is free to speak and responsible for what he says (unless he's a fool), but people are also free to choose what to listen to, so when the speaker abuses or says words of no importance then the listeners choose to ignore him and that's what we call noise or "background noise" :)
Silence is the virtue of fools.
The weight of wise people's words oblige them to decide when to keep silence and when to break it.
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 4:47:17 PM
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Daemon wrote:
Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


This is a rare occasion to see a quoted epigram from "The Advancement of Learning" (1605)

Before really diving into the literal meaning of it, it's worth asking these questions:

Is "silence" a virtue? No, not unless prudence is meant by it, in which case the epigram would --foolishly--run thus: "Prudence is the virtue of fools".

Are fools possessed of any virtue? Of the four cardinal virtues, no, not unless prudence of keeping silent is meant--the fools having the wisdom of that being doubtful.Brick wall

Perhaps the literal was not meant, because surely Bacon was familiar both with Plato and St. Thomas Aquinas.
Or, perhaps Bacon was saying that if fools are blessed with virtue, one specially suitable to them, it is silence. Silenced

Abraham Lincoln did, however, seem to agree that it was prudent to remain silent:""Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.""



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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 5:32:35 PM

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“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.”
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Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 6:26:28 PM

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In our culture silence is signaled as the height of wisdom, especially recommended for women. Silence can be quite immoral when the situation calls for full disclosure.
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Runi wrote:
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt.”


Applause Applause Applause
Guto André
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Who speaks too much, greets horses.
Verbatim
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 9:32:34 PM
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The French poet thought silence worked for fools and wise alike:
"“Silence is the genius of fools and one of the virtues of the wise” Bernard De Bonnard.
Absurdicuss
Posted: Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:20:40 PM
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Interesting: no mention of Bacon's visionary New Atlantis which is credited by many as the occultist Free Masonry's inspiration in the founding of the United States.
Verbatim
Posted: Monday, February 10, 2014 1:15:25 AM
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Daemon wrote:
Silence is the virtue of fools.

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)


Silence is also the sad, undeserved fate of the dumb.
pedro
Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:48:10 AM
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Babbling at the wrong time could get you locked in the Tower of London in his day (and nearly did).
Bobby Joseph
Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:09:38 AM

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The silence Bacon is talking about is the silence of saying anything wise. Someone trying to be wise may burb out foolish comments sometimes, but if he tries hard enough he can reduce those instances. And not become silent anymore.
Verbatim
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Bobby Joseph: Welcome! A fresh outlook, indeed.
Tani
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Eh? Anxious if silence is the virtue of the fools,i would like to consider myself a "fool".Silenced Silenced Silenced
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Keep silent then, so that you may be virtuous! Shhh
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