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Daemon
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A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)
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Bah! Who listens to Noah Webster?
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Wornds are malleable instruments.
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Daemon wrote:
A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

A good advice for a good writer. Is the chasm between a good and a bad writer really unbridgeable?

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Daemon wrote:
A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


Words are never obsolete or relevant because they have been marked as such by lexicographer. Present usage trumps language police in almost all instances.
Chaireas
Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:35:19 AM

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Chaireas wrote:
Daemon wrote:
A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


Words are never obsolete or relevant because they have been marked as such by lexicographer. Present usage trumps language police in almost all instances.


Some academic and "elite culture" contexts are exceptions to this, as they may uphold a specific usage even against the current usage in mainstream culture.
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"Edible - good to eat and wholesome to digest, as a worm to a toad, a toad to a snake, a snake to a pig, a pig to a man, and a man to a worm."

Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.

"Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others."


- Ambrose Bierce

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Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:19:00 AM

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Daemon wrote:
A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


"WHAT"
KentFlanagan
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A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)

Words in the English language are tools of a writer's craft and with so many "tools" to choose from, who is to say if a seldom used word is obsolete if it fits the exact needs of the writer in a passage.
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What a practical idea!
capitán
Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:05:45 PM

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With certitude, the meaning ascribed to words and its usage, goes beyond just conveying a certain message. A writer, in order to express himself or herself in the desired way needs knowledge, a mastering of words, of proper syntax, the art of creating meaning with words, and giving words meaning some times.

A message is not the same if we change a word for its synonym; there is something that touches us in the right way when we read the right word in the right order within a sentence, in the right moment of our lives. This, some times happens without the writer intending to achieve it; but the good writer can manipulate feelings with words, at times, godlikely moving our souls. For the writer of his or her own story there is no old words or new ones, everything falls into place as the heart wills it.

I once learned a strange and, for a time, dead word reading a poem.
Later I learned it was a very cleverly put word into the poem's metric.
However, what touched me was not only a matter of the sound of the metric in the poem but of the meaning as well.

I gift these words to you today, in a fragment of the poem.

to those who haven't read them and want to:
http://library.worldtracker.org/English%20Literature/T/Tolkien,%20J.%20R.%20R/J.R.R.%20Tolkien%20-%20The%20adventures%20of%20tom%20bombadil.pdf


The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
Errantry
-fragment-

He sat and sang a melody,
his errantry a-tarrying;
he begged a pretty butterfly
that fluttered by to marry him.
She scorned him and she scoffed at him,
she laughed at him unpitying;
so long he studied wizardry
and sigaldry and smithying.

I would like to read what strange or old words have you encountered in your reading errantries.
Verbatim
Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:24:06 PM
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Daemon wrote:
A word which some lexicographer has marked obsolete is ever thereafter an object of dread and loathing to the fool writer, but if it is a good word and has no exact modern equivalent equally good, it is good enough for the good writer.

Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914)


Let the writer be the judge of what is or isn't a "good word". Let him equally dread -and be loath to use- the equivalent, though equally good, superfluous word. Pray
pedro
Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 5:17:59 AM
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Upon reading this thread I looked up this http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/27-delightful-obsolete-words-its-high-time-we-revived
There are some goodies here, but for every 'obsolete' word there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of geographical colloquialisms in use. Fair makes one want to lunt.
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Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 5:43:46 AM
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This thread is an exercise of floccinaucinihilipilification and I regard it as floccipend in the extreme.
pedro
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