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smk
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:43:33 PM
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I'm searching for a single word to describe the feeling when someone secretly wishes you to fail. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
TB
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:51:34 PM
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schadenfreude comes close

From:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/schadenfreude+

scha·den·freu·de (shädn-froid)
n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
rosicrucian
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:54:34 PM
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Skeptical?
-Marked by or given to doubt; questioning.
smk
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:58:38 PM
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TB wrote:
schadenfreude comes close

From:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/schadenfreude+

scha·den·freu·de (shädn-froid)
n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.


Cool word! Thanks :)
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:59:43 PM

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TB wrote:
schadenfreude comes close

From:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/schadenfreude+

scha·den·freu·de (shädn-froid)
n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.


We have same phrase in Finnish, vahingonilo. But that is not exactly the right word. You can feel joy of someone's harm even if you didn't wish it.
TB
Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 11:40:38 PM
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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:
We have same phrase in Finnish, vahingonilo. But that is not exactly the right word. You can feel joy of someone's harm even if you didn't wish it.



Finnish Think ...if the English speak English, the French speak French, the Spanish speak Spanish and so on, why don't the Americans speak Americanish. Never mind, I remember, they're those English colonists who just won't behave. :-)
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:00:01 AM
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How about "Roman holiday"? Think
Nibbles
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:01:20 AM
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a 'frenemie' I suppse in english or thereabouts, but, why ever would a friend wish one to fail? Such slanguistic constructs are indicative of humanity, and perhaps a reason why the earth is in turmoil. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer? With friends like that who needs enemies? Go figure. What a waste of love. The entire subject speaks to depravity.
TL Hobs
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:13:43 AM
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The closest word I can think of to describe my feeling when someone wants me to fail is, Defensive. I would feel defensive and strive hard to not fail.

I don't know if this is close to what you are asking.
TB
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TL Hobs wrote:
The closest word I can think of to describe my feeling when someone wants me to fail is, Defensive. I would feel defensive and strive hard to not fail.

I don't know if this is close to what you are asking.



TL makes a good point. I reread your question..."I'm searching for a single word to describe the feeling when someone secretly wishes you to fail. Any ideas?"

If you are talking about what 'you' feel when someone wishes for you to fail, schadenfreude is not the word you want. "Schadenfreude" means to enjoy another's misfortune. It is what your enemy would feel if you were hurt.

JayJay
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:39:26 AM
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smk wrote:
I'm searching for a single word to describe the feeling when someone secretly wishes you to fail. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.


The word 'guise' could be used to describe a person with a false outword manner or appearance.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:52:40 AM
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the attitude makes me wish my mother never gave birth to me
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TB wrote:
schadenfreude comes close

From:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/schadenfreude+

scha·den·freu·de (shädn-froid)
n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.


I believe it translates to "shamefull joy"
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:54:07 AM
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i suppose that's why my father taught me to shoot well, and make friends with those who shoot better.
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:05:41 AM
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smk wrote:
I'm searching for a single word to describe the feeling when someone secretly wishes you to fail. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.


humans being emotional critters, many emotions come about at such times, in my experience in witnessing or experiencing such betrayal, the feelings are usually, regret, sadness, and despondency, then, from what I have witnessed, anger, rath and hatred tend to take over, then those subjected take on a sense of pride, or forgiveness.

You ask a question that drives emotion, and logic to some some extent, most animals react in one of two or three ways, they either fight to the death or attack vehemently, they withdraw to plot revenge or retribution, or leave one in the dust and forget about them. Then again, I guess there is some semblance of combinitorics in those extremes.

Betray a friend? Beware the consequence? a buddhist might just shrug it off and leave it to karma, then go meditate for thier own salvation and the greater good. is that not selfish too?
shaoley
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:45:57 AM
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There's a howto site that I come across when I searched for the word. The article refers the person with that kind of mentality as "sociopath" adding that "This is what makes these people sociopaths:they do not care how much they destroy the lives of their victims."
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:43:02 AM

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I think the right word is hidden somewhere in Shakespeare's Complete Works. Have to study it again for couple of years.

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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:55:20 AM
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smk wrote:
I'm searching for a single word to describe the feeling when someone secretly wishes you to fail. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.



Betrayed?

The word to describe the other person's actions might be sabotage.
smk
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:01:31 PM
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I guess my question wasn't as clear as I had it in my head, and after reading through the replies and rereading my question I agree that it is a bit confusing. My goal is to search for a word that describes the emotion a person wishing your failure feels, i.e an adjective to describe that state of mind--not how I feel about it.

Schadenfreude is close, but it doesn't mean that the person wished the failure upon a certain individual.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:47:31 PM

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Malicious or
Malevolent

capo403
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:50:32 PM
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smk wrote:
I guess my question wasn't as clear as I had it in my head, and after reading through the replies and rereading my question I agree that it is a bit confusing. My goal is to search for a word that describes the emotion a person wishing your failure feels, i.e an adjective to describe that state of mind--not how I feel about it.

Schadenfreude is close, but it doesn't mean that the person wished the failure upon a certain individual.



JJ's response seems fitting for what you're seeking. Another might be hostility.
capo403
Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:57:30 PM
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Also, enmity or animosity...spite,vindictiveness?


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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:24:54 PM
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If you don't know that someone wishes you to fail, you're feeling paranoid.
Isaac Samuel
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CURSE
MALICIOUS
SINISTER
MALEVALANT
ScallyWag
Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:54:03 PM
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smk wrote:
My goal is to search for a word that describes the emotion a person wishing your failure feels, i.e an adjective to describe that state of mind--not how I feel about it.



A rather difficult question as you're talking about the feelings or the wishes of a person rather than their words or acts. If it were the later, then malicious would fit well. If you analyse it though, the most common reason a person would want another person to fail would be because that first person is jealous, so maybe invidious or covetous could be more fitting.


Other than that, picky a sweary word and call them that.
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