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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 7:00:14 PM

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I have always been fascinated by different styles in music, but especially where two completely different types are combined.

My first offering is the 'classic' first collaboration by Stephane Grappelli (jazz violinist) and Yehudi Menuhin (classical):
Jealousy
tootsie
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 7:14:43 PM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I have always been fascinated by different styles in music, but especially where two completely different types are combined.

My first offering is the 'classic' first collaboration by Stephane Grappelli (jazz violinist) and Yehudi Menuhin (classical):
Jealousy


absolutely beautiful to see them together - especially on a "Parky" show - thank you for sharing - "every note was an event"

T

ps - my own favourite is Aerosmith and Run DMC when they do "walk this way" but it hardly seems to compare......... :)





Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 7:55:34 PM

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Traditional folk, jazz, and rock.
Piirpauke - Konevitsan kirkonkellot (Churchbells of Konevitsa)
Here with old Karelian 36-string kantele tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqOGHrPLfL8&feature=related
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Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 8:11:17 PM

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Progressive /rock /just plain weird pop band Sigur Rós

with a fisherman singing traditional chanting rimur (literally rhyme)

post-rock classical and rimur


great posts - just goes to show, great musicians will shine, whatever.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 8:18:07 PM

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Impressive, thar! Thanks!
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Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 8:23:29 PM

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before I can catch up with your posts........another combination worth a listen to.......

http://youtu.be/Wixz_r7v51E

Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:07:21 PM

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Usually the attempts to mix rock and classical end up badly, like The Ventures' version of Mozart's 40th,
or London Symphony Orchestra playing Beatles.

Emerson. Lake and Palmer guided a generation to listen to classical music with their respective touch on pieces like Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet, Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, or Sibelius's Karelia Suite.

Some rock music is composed like classical (70's King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, Procol Harum, Queen, Zappa...)

To put a Symphony Orchestra to play some rock pieces is no good if the music won't fit.

However, this I like:

Zappa: Yellow Shark concerts with Ensemble Modern - Dog Breath Variations
thar
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:17:08 PM

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one more...

Björk at the Royal Opera House with a Greenlandic choir, a harpist, and orchestra...(and an ostrich costume, apparently!)

It's in our hands

not usually a fan, but I like the energy of this one

(and, for light relief, a very quick sketch on Björk, because I know my postings here are a bit parochial!)

Bjork will kill you

thanks for showing some good stuff, here and in the piano post. Now, someone mentioned guitars....

jcbarros
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:52:40 PM

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Dmitri Shostakovich´s Jazz Suites 1 & 2 (Great!)
thar
Posted: Friday, February 3, 2012 10:59:11 PM

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this may not fit the description of entirely different styles, they are more fusion.

But a couple of my favourite songs at the moment, and you never know, they might be new to someone who likes them!

Senegalese rap

Afro Celt Sound System





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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:32:43 AM
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I'm being pedantic, but do you mean 'complementary'? as opposed to complimentary?
There is a difference.

I'm a classical nut, and don't think rock / pop cuts it as a partner.
I think of Mozart 40 with a beat. Ugh. Spit. Puke. Vomit.
thar
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 3:01:04 AM

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dingdong - you need the beat to dance to, or you cut your toenails on the swords...

mozart on the rampage

What do you mean, not that Mozart?Anxious Whistle
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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:53:35 AM

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Quote:
Olsen Olsen

I know, I post too much Sigur Rós
(I like Sigur Rós!)


thanks for that post thar, now I like them too!!

ethereal, magical and a wonderful video also.

thar
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 10:12:49 AM

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tootsie wrote:
Quote:
Olsen Olsen

I know, I post too much Sigur Rós
(I like Sigur Rós!)


thanks for that post thar, now I like them too!!

ethereal, magical and a wonderful video also.



hey, wrong thread, this is rimur, not bowing guitar Dancing You have probably heard them before, they are used on several film soundtracks, but the best film music you don't notice, you just feel.

glad you liked it - and thank you for starting these threads, I have met a lot of cool music.

but, if you think these guys have the spirit, you should meet their friend...the true soul of a musician!!!

Pálli Stefánsson

and using it in a concert - I think the sound is truly magical

Odin's Raven Magic

dingdong
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 10:35:16 AM
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Thar, what is your definition of 'cool' music?
You mean Icelandic?
thar
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dingdong wrote:
Thar, what is your definition of 'cool' music?
You mean Icelandic?


ah, there are serious criteria for being cool:

hot is cool, chilled is cool and cool is cool,

but cold is not cool, and luke-warm is seriously not cool!
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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 10:42:41 AM

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aw shoot, I got me threads tangled!!! - nevertheless, loving all the links you are all giving. Goosebumps R Us here (and it's snowing too!!)

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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 10:43:24 AM

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Tootsie, the Freddie Mercury piece was wonderful. I miss him so. I ended up watching his videos on You Tube for about an hour. Thank you so much.
tootsie
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boneyfriend wrote:
Tootsie, the Freddie Mercury piece was wonderful. I miss him so. I ended up watching his videos on You Tube for about an hour. Thank you so much.


I agree, and thank you too. Watching all the other links on Youtube is taking up a lot of my time, but to hear such diversity in musical tastes is fantastic, and warming to the soul - especially on such a cold (brrrrrrr) day !!!!

dingdong
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thar wrote:
dingdong wrote:
Thar, what is your definition of 'cool' music?
You mean Icelandic?


ah, there are serious criteria for being cool:

hot is cool, chilled is cool and cool is cool,

but cold is not cool, and luke-warm is seriously not cool!


Is Mozart 40 with a beat, cool?
Excuse me, won't you? You see I don't live in a 'cool' world.
thar
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 11:10:42 AM

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dingdong wrote:
thar wrote:
dingdong wrote:
Thar, what is your definition of 'cool' music?
You mean Icelandic?


ah, there are serious criteria for being cool:

hot is cool, chilled is cool and cool is cool,

but cold is not cool, and luke-warm is seriously not cool!


Is Mozart 40 with a beat, cool?
Excuse me, won't you? You see I don't live in a 'cool' world.


Are you being serious, or so deadpan I can't tell the difference? If former, hey, lighten up, dingdong, it was a joke - did you watch the video? "Mozart on the Rampage" is traditional Scottish bagpipe music - nothing to do with Mozart! If latter - still a Joke!

Personally, I have yet to see any classical crossover that does anything much for me (although the ELP was new to me an interesting) (hence the crossovers I posted were traditional+ rock), but surely the point of threads like this is to open up to these things, not shut down? Or put down.

And the Americans here seem to think a lot of American music is cool enough to post - and for the most part I agree with their choices. I have been a fan of Beatles Music but I loved excaelis's Eleanor Rigby. First time with meaning! Applause Applause

and remember - Mozart was a fusionist rebel!

*** Shame on you NOT that I was calling ex an American, (except in the wider sense, which is my excuse now although I wasn't actually thinking it at the time... Whistle) ***
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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 12:03:56 PM
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Surely the point of this forum - not just this thread - is to exchange insights, views, and opinions with people around the world? Some might be favourable, some not.
I just wanted something a bit more useful and meaningful than 'cool'. Many people who use this forum do so to improve their English, and 'cool' means ... what?
Some use the word as though it is the only adjective in their vocabulary.
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Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 12:44:27 PM

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Ah! - 'Cool' means 'Froody' or 'groovy' or 'hot' or 'bad' or 'good'.

Hmmm Think I seem to have tied myself in a knot. Sick

I think they all (in those meanings) mean "I like it!"

Since I posted the first post on this thread, I've been on a computer with no access to you-tube, so I can't listen to any of your contributions till tomorrow Boo hoo! However I can say that I like Keith Emerson's performances with the London Symphony Orchestra, though he does get a litttttle wild at times.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 12:49:50 PM

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Hi dingdong!

Er... well... yes... complementary. It was not me, it was my finger, honest.

What is the temperature where you are? It's only minus 2 here - not really got cold yet, but that's cool (terrible joke)
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dingdong wrote:

Some use the word as though it is the only adjective in their vocabulary.


Joe Cool uses ALL the other adjectives!
Like beautiful, clever, brave, brilliant, excellent, modest and humble. Angel
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John Kaizan Neptune: an American player and builder of the shakuhachi (Japanese bamboo flute)


John Kaizan Neptune


Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Saturday, February 4, 2012 4:50:07 PM

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I wonder if anyone can ever categorise this piece of music strictly in one genre,
King Crimson - Lizard (1970)
(to me it's one of the most beautiful works any rock band has ever done ;-)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:32:59 PM

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sorry i overreacted dingdong, thought you were on a downer. Silenced
Please, I have sought in vain for a ^^^^er word than cool, but dude, all the groovy ones seem to go out of date so quickly, it is the only one that has dated so many times it is married - it can't date any more!

so, if jazz is always looking for that mellow sound, why does it not use the mellowest instrument in the orchestra? Well, some guys thought it should! Hey, it is so hip with the jazz vibe the sound smokes out behind you!

http://youtu.be/vvqukbd-Auw







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The Goat Rodeo Sessions with music by
Yo-Yo Ma, Stuart Duncan, Edgar Meyer & Chris Thile. The musicians come from classical and blue grass backgrounds.

The Goat Rodeo Sessions
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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 3:47:22 PM

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Thank you all! I just sat and listened to all your contributions - I was fascinated by "Odin's Raven Music", King Crimson, ALL of them. Freddie Mercury was amazing!
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Same here. I have never heard of King Crimson, but so many of the sounds are the things I love in other bands of that era, I am just so suprised they are not more well known (or, maybe they are and I just missed them!)

If I may, coz I just found it, I want to post a longer clip the Barbican concert of Odin's Raven, this time chapter 3 (there are several chapters, it is the retelling of an old Saga).
http://youtu.be/TRQ2WwiMndY

I think it is because this place is so small, that we cannot afford to have genres and pigeonholes, that a rock band can join both with a folk singer and write a classical piece, and everyone works together. I think everywhere that is happening more and more throughout music, by economic necessity and the convergence of technology, so it should continue to produce interesting stuff. Hope so.

Anyway, I think this is beautiful. Don't know if any classicists would rate it, but listening to this through headphones with the eyes closed - very primal, in a restrained sort of way!

[Then I promise to shut up. But then you have heard that promise before....]
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KING CRIMSON is categorized into Psychedelia, Prog Rock, Avantgarde, Hard Rock;
according to Georgiy Starostin.

KING CRIMSON


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