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zhonglc2020
Posted: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 5:28:00 AM
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Hello everyone,

Quote:

1.The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew ___she had gone.
A there
B where
C in which
D the place where

link: https://qb.zuoyebang.com/xfe-question/question/448334ebe5a6633fa97fb8c98acd088a.html
Key B

I have no problem with B, but what about the following?
01 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew where she had gone.
02 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place where she had gone.
03 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place where she had gone to.
04 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place to which she had gone.

Except for 03, I think all the other 3 are correct , but I may be wrong, for at least, 02 is obviously listed in the wrong options in the topic question.
If it is not for the reason that people prefer a short one, then what about sentences 02/04?


Thank you.

thar
Posted: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 5:59:15 AM

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01 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew where she had gone.
best. Clear, simple

02 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place where she had gone.
Possible, but since where = the place, it is redundant

03 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place where she had gone to.
The 'to' is possible but not elegant. You normally omit it, even though you do go to a place, not 'go a placee'.

04 The people of the party were worried about Janet because no one knew the place to which she had gone.
Correct but redundant and over-complicated.

The problem is that English has simplified the word 'where'.

There are three
whence = from where
whither = to where
where = at where

But modern English does not use whence and whither in colloquial language (you will see see it in more formal or prose writing) and uses 'where' for everything. That explains the problem with the 'to'.


So don't be surprised that the use of 'where' in English is a bit illogical in places and you can have different ways of saying it. It is mission creep by 'where' over 'whence' and 'whither'.

In your examples, they are not incorrect. They are just unnecessarily complicated.
zhonglc2020
Posted: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 6:22:00 AM
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Got it.
Thank you for your time, thar.
Ruthania
Posted: Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:32:18 AM
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zhonglc2020 wrote:

1.The people of the party were worried about Janet ...


This is unusual.

If it were a 'celebration' party I would expect to hear:

The people at the party were worried about Janet...

and if it were a political party, I would expect:

The party members were worried about Janet...

just sayin'

zhonglc2020
Posted: Monday, October 18, 2021 9:06:47 PM
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Thank you, Ruthania.
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