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antonio hernandez aguillares
Posted: Thursday, September 9, 2021 11:20:32 PM

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Sense of the verb "to partake"

Hi, this is one of the meanings:
"To take or be given part or portion."
Source: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/partake

I can understand clear the first part "to take given part or portion", according to the definition above the second part must be the same as the first one, I mean: "to take given part or portion" = "to be given part or portion", nevertheless, I can't get the second.

Why have they got the same meaning? Could you tell me?
tautophile
Posted: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:09:15 AM
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Your second paragraph is difficult to understand. I think you are trying to say "I can understand clearly the first part, i.e., that 'partake' means 'to take a part or portion'. According to the definition above [i.e., the one you quote from freedictionary.com], the second part should be the same as the first one, I mean: 'to take given part or portion' should in some sense be the same 'to be given part or portion'; nevertheless, I can't get the second."

There are problems with that. In the first place, the second part of the definition does not have to be the same as the first part; if it were the same, there would be no need for that second part. The second part of the definition therefore has to be different in some significant way from the first part. The two parts are "to take a part or portion" and "to be given a part or portion". Now I have to say that I've never run across "partake' in the sense of "to be given a part or portion"; I've only seen it in the sense of "to take or have a part or portion".

"Partake" is derived from "part-take", i.e., "take a part in or of" or "share". The meaning of "partake [of]" is "to take or have a part or portion." It's usually in the form of "partake of", as in, "I partake of a meal at the cafe most evenings", or "Will you partake of some soup?" or "My cat partakes of [i.e., has] some of the characteristics of a tabby and a Siamese."

thar
Posted: Friday, September 10, 2021 12:57:42 AM

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To take or be given part or portion.

That is two options.

To take part or portion

Or

To be given part or portion.

Those are two different options


It usually means to eat or drink something.
Either you take the food, or you are given the food. Then you eat it.
antonio hernandez aguillares
Posted: Friday, September 10, 2021 2:41:11 PM

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tautophile wrote:
Your second paragraph is difficult to understand. I think you are trying to say "I can understand clearly the first part, i.e., that 'partake' means 'to take a part or portion'. According to the definition above [i.e., the one you quote from freedictionary.com], the second part should be the same as the first one, I mean: 'to take given part or portion' should in some sense be the same 'to be given part or portion'; nevertheless, I can't get the second."


Yes, sorry. I omitted some punctuation; however, I thought that one can substitute 'clearly' for 'clear', inasmuch as according to this source: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/clear, number '1' in the adverb section, it says "1. Distinctly; clearly".

And in the part where you change 'must' for 'should', the thing that I wanted to express was 'to indicate a logical probability' with that word (must).

tautophile wrote:

if it were the same, there would be no need for that second part.


In this part I don't completely agree with you, it's often to use second parts when you wish to clarify concepts, since not always the conjuction 'or' is used to indicate alternatives, but synonymous or equivalent expressions.

Anyway, thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it.
antonio hernandez aguillares
Posted: Friday, September 10, 2021 2:47:30 PM

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thar wrote:



It usually means to eat or drink something.
Either you take the food, or you are given the food. Then you eat it.


Thank you a lot, now I've comprehended why there was the verb 'to be' there.
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