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Penz
Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 8:05:03 AM

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All these excerpts are from "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban".


Quote:
Inside the castle, there was a buzz of Christmas in the air.

Does buzz means "people were talking about Christmas" or "the postive feeling for Christmas"?
And how do we determine that?


Quote:
He had been riding one of the school brooms at team practice.

Dictionary defines "practice" as an action not a place. If it is about action, then why not "in team practice"?


Harry and his friends are in a corridor where there's a statue.
Quote:
He nodded towards an empty classroom to the left of the one-eyed statue.

----R1---Statue------
•(Harry)
------------R2-------
Which is the correct position of the room? And what would we call the other one?


Fred and George are giving Harry a ragged piece of parchment.
Quote:
And what do I need with a bit of old parchment?

I'm aware of the "what do I WANT with" phrase. However I had never heard of "What do I NEED with". It is unusal or used commonly?


Same context.
Quote:
'You're winding me up,' said Harry, looking at the ragged old bit of parchment.

Does "winding up" here means "decieving" or "making angry"?
And the thing which bums me out is HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT?


Quote:
Messrs Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prong
Purveyors of Aids to Magical Mischief-Makers are proud to present..


Like Messrs, can we use Messr for a single name?

I do know what Purveyors mean though are they referring themselves as " Magical Mischief-Makers" or someone else and telling that they help (aids to) the " Magical Mischief-Makers"




thar
Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 8:56:54 AM

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buzz
Quote:
an atmosphere of excitement and activity.
"there is a real buzz about the place"

it is excitement and anticipatory and positive.

the practice is the activity.
it takes 'at' when one attends it.
That was where he was, doing that.
it is not any particular place, it is the time you spend at the activity
at school, at work, at football practice, at orchestra rehearsal

Rooms open off the corridor. at the side of the corridor, between the rooms, there is statue.
So there is a room to the right of the statue, and a room to the left of the statue.



One room is to the right of the sofa (as you look at it)
One room is to the left of the sofa.


winding me up - trying to be funny, to amuse yourself by tricking me.

wind up
Quote:
(transitive) British slang
to tease (someone)


wind-up
Quote:
NOUN
2. British informal
an act or instance of teasing
This has to be a wind-up.
At first I couldn't believe it. I thought it was a wind-up by one of my mates.
Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers



It can't mean angry because:
If you are asking if someone is trying to anger you, you don't ask if they are angering you. That is your reaction. They are trying to wind you up. You get wound up.

This is British slang - winding me up. Taking the piss. Politely, for a children's book. Whistle


No, Mssrs is the plural form from the French. Messieurs. Because there is no plural to 'mister' in English. You don't use 'Mr' when you put your name on a business, but you (used to) put 'Mssrs' when there were two or more men in the name of the business. You use it for traditional businesses like solicitors - or purveyors of magic aids.

Quote:
Monsieur
/məˈsjəː,French məsjø/
plural noun: Messieurs




Purveyors (sellers) of aids (equipment) to .... (people who do magic to create mischief)

Messrs
(mesəʳz)
REGIONAL NOTE:
in AM, use Messrs.
1. TITLE NOUN
Messrs is used before the names of two or more men as part of the name of a business.
[British]
The repairs were to be done by Messrs Clegg & Sons of Balham.
2. TITLE NOUN
You use Messrs before the names of two or more men as the plural of Mr.
[formal]
I cannot allow the remarks made by Messrs Fortt and Wyre to remain unchallenged.

Quote:
Messrs Aask Solicitors Limited
Why choose Messrs Aask Solicitors Limited? Find out more.
Solicitors in Croydon View others nearby
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The Lansdowne Building, 2 Lansdowne Road, Croydon, Surrey, CR9 2ER
Phone: 020 8263 ----







Sarrriesfan
Posted: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:39:31 PM

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Here I disagree with thar, it’s quite normal in British English to say “You’re winding me up “ to mean “You're making me angry”.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/essential-british-english/wind-someone-up

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wind-up

It can mean both of course, but saying “You’re winding me up” is a warning; I am becoming angry, I can feel myself getting more and more annoyed if you don’t cease whatever you are doing then you will soon face the consequences of your actions. I am not yet at the point of losing it but watch out.

How do you tell which is meant unfortunately it’s context,
Penz
Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 2:28:31 AM

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Thank you but is the "buzz" "babbling of student due to excitement" or "the silent inward positive anticipation"?


You missed the question "What do I need with"? Please read again.


Can't winding up mean "decieve" here?
Penz
Posted: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:54:23 PM

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Please answer.
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:38:26 AM

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Penz wrote:
Thank you but is the "buzz" "babbling of student due to excitement" or "the silent inward positive anticipation"?

It could be either is there more context?
You missed the question "What do I need with"? Please read again.
Yes it’s common enough.

Can't winding up mean "decieve" here?

Not in the context.
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