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lazarius
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:52:36 AM

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https://www.lexico.com/definition/command?locale=en

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[with object] Dominate (a strategic position) from a superior height.

"the fortress commands the shortest Channel crossing"

I understand this definition with a fortress commanding a crossing but what about a person commanding a view? Does the same definition apply?

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thar
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 9:08:32 AM

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no, it really just means 'has', or 'gives you'.

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2014 - Rhodes Memorial above the University of University of Cape Town commands an excellent view of the city.


ie if you go up there, you get an excellent view of the city because you are high up and there is nothing blocking your view. There is no meaning of domination.
(although building a statue is a political act, so there is metaphorical domination intended in this example, but the same would hold true for a mountain or a hotel room. There is no meaning of domination in the wording 'commands a view of the city'.)

eg

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With a name like Harbourview I tend to 'harbour' a few suspicions that any view of the water will be minimal and possibly come in a photoframe. However, the NSHH is exactly what it says - located over the North Sydney train station (literally and figuratively) its harbour view rooms command a stunning vista of the harbour, bridge and surrounds...



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There is a little known ridge on Snowdon. Although it could be considered to be quite broad for a ridge, it's everything a ridge should be. It's steep, it's rocky, it requires the use of hands, knees, shoulders and torso to climb it. Technically it is an easy climb, is easily accessible and commands a view of breathtaking proportions. Furthermore, providing the weather is clear, it's in such a location that makes it a prominent feature in the sweeping vista enjoyed by the hundreds of thousands who visit Snowdon’s summit each year.



That meaning in your example would be very rare - normally you would put that another way.

lazarius
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 12:11:31 PM

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thar wrote:
no, it really just means 'has', or 'gives you'.

That's how I would have thought, but in addition to Oxford's Lexico another British dictionary gives the same "domination" meaning:

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/command

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5. to dominate (a view, etc) as from a height

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Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers


thar wrote:
That meaning in your example would be very rare - normally you would put that another way.

Do I understand it correctly that to say "a person commands a view" is a little awkward?

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Luker4
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:05:43 PM

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[thar wrote:]


That meaning in your example would be very rare - normally you would put that another way.



It's so rare I don't remember ever hearing or seeing such a phrase Think

A person can be an "imposing figure"

It is the olny thing that comes to my mind when thinking of one "commanding a view" Think

lazarius
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:44:14 PM

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Luker4 wrote:
It's so rare I don't remember ever hearing or seeing such a phrase

I'll give you a chance:

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Each had a window to herself and commanded an unobstructed view of the summer day flying past them.

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Song of Solomon, by Toni Morrison

Luker4 wrote:
A person can be an "imposing figure"
It is the olny thing that comes to my mind when thinking of one "commanding a view"

Personally, I understand it as to have at one's disposal.

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thar
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 1:47:44 PM

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That is a very poetic style, and the point is they only have that view while looking out of their window. So it is a poetic reworking of the standard idiom. Not normal language.
Luker4
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:00:16 PM

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[lazarius wrote:]

Personally, I understand it as to have at one's disposal.
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Ok I get it now :)
I was thinking of something else, thanks
It is a little awkward for normal day-to-day conversation no doubt.
lazarius
Posted: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:04:20 PM

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thar wrote:
So it is a poetic reworking of the standard idiom. Not normal language.

Thank you very much!

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