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DavidLearn
Posted: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 3:18:25 AM

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Hi teachers,
The Oxford dictionary says that ''negate'' can mean ''to state that something does not exist''. That said, can I use "negate" instead of "deny" in my definition?
To deny the name of an object or an animal in singular and plural we use these no questions.

Examples:
Is this a plate? No, it is not. It's a glass.
Are these plates? No they aren't, They're glasses.
Is this a dog? No, it isn't. it is a cat.
Are these dogs? No they aren't. They are cats.

Thanks.
DavidLearn
Posted: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 6:49:46 AM

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It's better like this:
To deny that this is the name of an object or an animal in singular and plural we use these no questions.

Still, can I use "negate" instead of "deny", in this case?

David.
FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:27:34 AM

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DavidLearn wrote:
It's better like this:
To deny that this is the name of an object or an animal in singular and plural we use these no questions.

Still, can I use "negate" instead of "deny", in this case?

David.


I'm not sure if the object of the lesson is to understand "no" statements, or the words, "deny" and "negate". I'm going to assume the former.

Neither negate, nor deny, seem like the best word to use here. To deny something is usually used after a statement of truth, or an accusation (he denied the accusation that he killed someone. He was first accused)

In your examples, there would first have to be the statement:
This is a dog.
This is a plate.
This is a cat.

To negate something is generally to invalidate it, or nullify it in some way. That could fit, but sounds odd as the word to use here.

I would suggest "correct", or "correctly".
To "correct" the name of an object, or an animal, in singular and plural we use these no questions.

To "correctly" identify an object, or an animal, in the singular and plural, we use "no" questions.

Is this a plate? No, it is not. It's a glass.
Are these plates? No they aren't, They're glasses.
Is this a dog? No, it isn't. it is a cat.
Are these dogs? No they aren't. They are cats.

DavidLearn
Posted: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 10:44:27 AM

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DavidLearn wrote:
It's better like this:
To deny that this is the name of an object or an animal in singular and plural we use these no questions.

Still, can I use "negate" instead of "deny", in this case?


FounDit wrote:
I'm not sure if the object of the lesson is to understand "no" statements, or the words, "deny" and "negate". I'm going to assume the former.


The object is if it's appropriate to use "deny" or "negate" for the explanation. That's all.

FounDit wrote:
Neither negate, nor deny, seem like the best word to use here. To deny something is usually used after a statement of truth, or an accusation (he denied the accusation that he killed someone. He was first accused)

In your examples, there would first have to be the statement:
This is a dog.
This is a plate.
This is a cat.

To negate something is generally to invalidate it, or nullify it in some way. That could fit, but sounds odd as the word to use here.

I would suggest "correct", or "correctly".
To "correct" the name of an object, or an animal, in singular and plural we use these no questions.

To "correctly" identify an object, or an animal, in the singular and plural, we use "no" questions.

Is this a plate? No, it is not. It's a glass.
Are these plates? No they aren't, They're glasses.
Is this a dog? No, it isn't. it is a cat.
Are these dogs? No they aren't. They are cats.


Hi FounDit,
Very interesting explanation of yours. I really thought both were interchangeable for the explanation. Anxious

David.
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