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alibey1917
Posted: Sunday, April 4, 2021 9:54:03 AM

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"Cities may be less subject to polarization because the issues they face don’t map neatly to political ideologies... Indeed, only three of the ten most populous cities in the United States have partisan elections, where candidates identify as Republicans or Democrats. The remainder hold nonpartisan elections, hoping to increase cooperation among city leaders across political differences. A less idealistic explanation would point out that most American cities are Democratic strongholds and have no meaningful partisan challengers." (Ethan Zuckerman, Mistrust: Why Losing Faith In Institutions Provides the Tools to Transform Them)

In what sense is the word “idealistic” used here?
thar
Posted: Sunday, April 4, 2021 10:27:05 AM

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There are two explanations why you might have non-partisan elections

1 hold nonpartisan elections, hoping to increase cooperation among city leaders across political differences.
there are political differences, but in the spirit of true democracy and cooperation, you don't begrime it with party politics. Just individuals from across the political spectrum who all want to do what is best for the city. That is the idealistic view - the way it should be, in an ideal world


2 most American cities are Democratic strongholds and have no meaningful partisan challengers."

This is the less idealistic explanation. It doesn't happen because diversity and democracy are thriving. It only happens because there is only one party that has any chance. In that situation, you can have challenges between members of that party. That is not good democracy, it is lack of meaningful diversity and choice. A one-party system, which is the antithesis of real representation.
alibey1917
Posted: Sunday, April 4, 2021 12:31:25 PM

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thar yazdı:
There are two explanations why you might have non-partisan elections

1 hold nonpartisan elections, hoping to increase cooperation among city leaders across political differences.
there are political differences, but in the spirit of true democracy and cooperation, you don't begrime it with party politics. Just individuals from across the political spectrum who all want to do what is best for the city. That is the idealistic view - the way it should be, in an ideal world


2 most American cities are Democratic strongholds and have no meaningful partisan challengers."

This is the less idealistic explanation. It doesn't happen because diversity and democracy are thriving. It only happens because there is only one party that has any chance. In that situation, you can have challenges between members of that party. That is not good democracy, it is lack of meaningful diversity and choice. A one-party system, which is the antithesis of real representation.


Thank you, thar, I got it.
thar
Posted: Sunday, April 4, 2021 1:42:38 PM

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Good - I didn't point out explicitly the difference between

democratic = of that system, representative of the people

and

Democratic = of the Democratic party in the US. ie a one-party system in effect, with the Republican party or independents never holding power.
alibey1917
Posted: Monday, April 5, 2021 1:38:23 AM

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thar yazdı:
Good - I didn't point out explicitly the difference between

democratic = of that system, representative of the people

and

Democratic = of the Democratic party in the US. ie a one-party system in effect, with the Republican party or independents never holding power.


To point out the difference it was enough to capitalize the "d" of "democratic" and you had done that. Thank you, again.
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