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Daemon
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My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

John Quincy Adams (1767-1848)
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ass we can
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My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

John Quincy Adams (1767-1848)
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Daemon wrote:
My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

John Quincy Adams (1767-1848)


Yeah. And though those romantic times are long gone, we are still thrilled by such enthusiastic toast, plea or whatever. Right? Cheers, John!
Ghada M.Ahmad
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Daemon wrote:
My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/John+Quincy+Adams (1767-1848)


Sorry to disappoint you, but no one is always right.
Adyl Mouhei
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Sounds wise!
jcbarros
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Utopia.;]
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Trump should have read this.
monamagda
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The complete quote from: Letter to his father, John Adams (1 August 1816), referring to the popular phrase "My Country, Right or Wrong!" based upon Stephen Decatur's famous statement "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right, but our country, right or wrong." The Latin phrase is one that can be translated as : "Let justice be done though heaven should fall" or "though heaven perish"


“I can never join with my voice in the toast which I see in the papers attributed to one of our gallant naval heroes. I cannot ask of heaven success, even for my country, in a cause where she should be in the wrong. Fiat justitia, pereat coelum. My toast would be, may our country always be successful, but whether successful or otherwise, always right.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams

Hans Wobbe
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 3:20:36 PM

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It would be interesting to try to compare the "wisdom" exhibited by each of the POTUS incumbents.

This would be quite challenging, of course, given it would be necessary to
'Normalize' the contemporary language and the political forces of the day.

Such an effort would probably be worth a PhD in most poliSci programmes.
Nelson Cerqueira
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America above all!
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