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Tara2
Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:57:02 AM

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What does 'scourge' mean?

He is in a game and is fighting with his dirty clothes by cleaning them.

Take that, you laundry scourge!

Victor and Valentino animation series, season 01, episode 06
FounDit
Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 10:49:21 AM

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Tara2 wrote:
What does 'scourge' mean?

He is in a game and is fighting with his dirty clothes by cleaning them.

Take that, you laundry scourge!

Victor and Valentino animation series, season 01, episode 06



A scourge is something terrible, or that causes great suffering or pain. The character is making a joke of his dirty clothes.

n.
1. A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation such as that caused by pestilence or war.
2. A means of inflicting severe suffering, vengeance, or punishment.
3. A small whip used to inflict punishment.
Tara2
Posted: Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:04:33 PM

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FounDit wrote:
Tara2 wrote:
What does 'scourge' mean?

He is in a game and is fighting with his dirty clothes by cleaning them.

Take that, you laundry scourge!

Victor and Valentino animation series, season 01, episode 06



A scourge is something terrible, or that causes great suffering or pain. The character is making a joke of his dirty clothes.

n.
1. A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation such as that caused by pestilence or war.
2. A means of inflicting severe suffering, vengeance, or punishment.
3. A small whip used to inflict punishment.

Many thanks!!!
Is 'scourge' like 'disaster', please?
FounDit
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:03:08 PM

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Tara2 wrote:
FounDit wrote:
Tara2 wrote:
What does 'scourge' mean?

He is in a game and is fighting with his dirty clothes by cleaning them.

Take that, you laundry scourge!

Victor and Valentino animation series, season 01, episode 06



A scourge is something terrible, or that causes great suffering or pain. The character is making a joke of his dirty clothes.

n.
1. A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation such as that caused by pestilence or war.
2. A means of inflicting severe suffering, vengeance, or punishment.
3. A small whip used to inflict punishment.

Many thanks!!!
Is 'scourge' like 'disaster', please?


I think most people equate them. Originally there was a difference. A scourge is a whip used for punishment, so today, most people associate scourge with pain, even when it doesn't refer to whipping.

A disaster is a widespread event, and we usually think of it as devastation and destruction along with loss of life, such as wars, pandemics, volcanoes, etc.

So the simple idea is that "scourge" focuses on painful conditions while "disaster" focuses on destruction. But for most people, they are similar.
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:35:21 PM

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Although it’s also possible for being a scourge to be a good thing, if the thing that is acted against is considered bad or evil.

“The legless fighter pilot Douglas Bader was the scourge of Nazi bombers during the Battle of Britain.”

Or this:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/07/30/batmans-bane

Quote:
We see how Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale), the compulsive loner and eccentric billionaire, has transformed himself into Batman, the scourge of evil and savior of Gotham City.
Tara2
Posted: Monday, October 19, 2020 6:43:42 AM

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Many thanks to you both!
Romany
Posted: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:31:43 AM
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I think it's also pretty important to explain that the word "scourge" is no longer common usage - except, as in this example, in fun, or comic exaggeration?

Towards the end of the 19th Century and for the first couple of decades of the 20th Century children's literature suddenly blossomed into a whole genre. Previously children's books had been aimed at very, very young children who couldn't yet read themselves, and was highly moralistic - and often pretty boring.

Because they were now aimed at older children, books had to be exciting and contain adventures...and so a lot of exaggerated, or hyperbolic language was used. The actual word "scourge" lost it's literal meaning and came to be a descriptive word for adventurous children whom adults disapproved of, but who always "won the day". i.e. ended up being heroes! Tn the 1920's to 30'there was an entire series about a boy called "William" who was the "scourge" of polite, adult society...but whom kids adored. He wasn't wicked or bad - he was just a bit of an early rebel.

Now, even in formal writing, "scourge" is rarely used at all literally because many people associate it only with older writing and use it non-seriously as it is here.
Tara2
Posted: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:40:47 AM

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Romany wrote:


I think it's also pretty important to explain that the word "scourge" is no longer common usage - except, as in this example, in fun, or comic exaggeration?

Towards the end of the 19th Century and for the first couple of decades of the 20th Century children's literature suddenly blossomed into a whole genre. Previously children's books had been aimed at very, very young children who couldn't yet read themselves, and was highly moralistic - and often pretty boring.

Because they were now aimed at older children, books had to be exciting and contain adventures...and so a lot of exaggerated, or hyperbolic language was used. The actual word "scourge" lost it's literal meaning and came to be a descriptive word for adventurous children whom adults disapproved of, but who always "won the day". i.e. ended up being heroes! Tn the 1920's to 30'there was an entire series about a boy called "William" who was the "scourge" of polite, adult society...but whom kids adored. He wasn't wicked or bad - he was just a bit of an early rebel.

Now, even in formal writing, "scourge" is rarely used at all literally because many people associate it only with older writing and use it non-seriously as it is here.

Many thanks Rom!!!
Sorry what do you use now instead?
Romany
Posted: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:00:52 PM
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Well, it's not just the word - it's the concept of someone being "a scourge"; or the idea of something "scourging" the countryside doesn't really work in the technological present; things that "scourged the land" once, now 'infect', 'lay waste to", "destroy" - sometimes for generations to come, that land.

It's no longer relevant.
Tara2
Posted: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:46:24 PM

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Romany wrote:

Well, it's not just the word - it's the concept of someone being "a scourge"; or the idea of something "scourging" the countryside doesn't really work in the technological present; things that "scourged the land" once, now 'infect', 'lay waste to", "destroy" - sometimes for generations to come, that land.

It's no longer relevant.

Many thanks for the great explanation!
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