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navi
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:57:08 AM
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Which are correct:

1) He found the only non-losing move.
2) He found the only not losing move.
3) He found the only not-losing move.

The context is chess, but I suppose it could be quite a few other games as well. All possible moves but one will lead to a loss for him. There is only one move that will lead to a draw or a win. He found that move.

Gratefully,
Navi
KMQ
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:56:08 AM

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Chess is a wonderful game!!
Romany
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 4:56:22 AM
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Although I can quite see how useful a compound like "non/not-losing" would be, it does not occur in English.

So, unfortunately, none of these sentences work in English.
thar
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 6:18:47 AM

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I have to disagree - it does have meaning here in chess, although I can't think of many other games where there is that choice.
It is not a winning move - it doesn't mean you win the game.
But all the other moves are losing moves - they will to make you lose the game in a few moves, assuming your opponent plays correctly and takes advantage.
The only non-losing move is the one that keeps you in the game without sending you to certain defeat - what happens after that will determine whether you go on to win, lose or draw. At least that sounds logical to me.

If you were in that position it seems probable you will lose. But not directly from that move. And maybe you can force a draw or they screw up and you go on to win.
Romany
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 12:39:12 PM
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In which case, I stand corrected.

Thanks for that information, Thar. Proves how useful a forum is!!
FounDit
Posted: Friday, October 16, 2020 3:32:45 PM

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thar wrote:
I have to disagree - it does have meaning here in chess, although I can't think of many other games where there is that choice.
It is not a winning move - it doesn't mean you win the game.
But all the other moves are losing moves - they will to make you lose the game in a few moves, assuming your opponent plays correctly and takes advantage.
The only non-losing move is the one that keeps you in the game without sending you to certain defeat - what happens after that will determine whether you go on to win, lose or draw. At least that sounds logical to me.

If you were in that position it seems probable you will lose. But not directly from that move. And maybe you can force a draw or they screw up and you go on to win.


A move such as castling.
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