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Dukul
Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2020 9:59:49 AM

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What is the difference in meaning between these following sentences:

1. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I had ever had.

2. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I ever had.

3. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I have ever had.
Audiendus
Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:24:25 AM
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Dukul wrote:
What is the difference in meaning between these following sentences:

1. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I had ever had.

2. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I ever had.

3. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I have ever had.


(1) means the worst day up to then.
(2) and (3) mean the worst day up to now.
sureshot
Posted: Saturday, May 23, 2020 11:50:49 AM
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Dukul wrote:
What is the difference in meaning between these following sentences:

1. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I had ever had.

2. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I ever had.

3. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I have ever had.


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I presume you are talking about your last birthday. Since you are covering the time period till the present/now, and the feelings still persist, option 3 is correct. Sentence 2 is correct if you have got over your bad memories and the referred event is a thing of the past.

Option 1 should be avoided as the use of past perfect would imply the occurrence of two separate and distinct events in the past period. In such a situation the first completed event is in past perfect and the second completed event in the past period should be in simple past. Sentence 1 does not have two events in the past period.

Dukul
Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2020 8:20:21 AM

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sureshot wrote:
Dukul wrote:
What is the difference in meaning between these following sentences:

1. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I had ever had.

2. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I ever had.

3. My eighteenth birthday was the worst day I have ever had.


_____________


I presume you are talking about your last birthday. Since you are covering the time period till the present/now, and the feelings still persist, option 3 is correct. Sentence 2 is correct if you have got over your bad memories and the referred event is a thing of the past.

Option 1 should be avoided as the use of past perfect would imply the occurrence of two separate and distinct events in the past period. In such a situation the first completed event is in past perfect and the second completed event in the past period should be in simple past. Sentence 1 does not have two events in the past period.



could you please explain what does it mean then:

Lionel Messi: "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I ever saw"
Audiendus
Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:03:50 AM
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Dukul wrote:
could you please explain what does it mean then:

Lionel Messi: "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I ever saw"

It means the same as "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I have ever seen".

Messi is clearly considering all the strikers he has seen up to now, so the present perfect would be more appropriate. But the simple past is often used in such cases, e.g. "Look at that! Did you ever see such a thing?"
Dukul
Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2020 10:44:22 AM

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Audiendus wrote:
Dukul wrote:
could you please explain what does it mean then:

Lionel Messi: "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I ever saw"

It means the same as "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I have ever seen".

Messi is clearly considering all the strikers he has seen up to now, so the present perfect would be more appropriate. But the simple past is often used in such cases, e.g. "Look at that! Did you ever see such a thing?"


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coag
Posted: Sunday, May 24, 2020 12:04:54 PM

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Dukul wrote:
could you please explain what does it mean then:

Lionel Messi: "Ronaldo is the greatest striker I ever saw"

Dukul,
Be careful with what Messi says in English. He might be a great footballer but he is not a native English speaker.Whistle

I've never heard Messi speaking English. Does he speak English?
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