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Neandethals before the Earth was created Options
whatson
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Neanderthals 'before the earth was created?"

How come? Did they float in a vacuum as there was no earth hence no air too at that time?

Wrong thread title.

Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:50:52 AM

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Yes.

Of course.

These guys lived about 90,000 years ago, and the Earth was created 6000 years ago.

So these Neanderthals ate their cockles and mussels 84,000 years before Earth was created.

Simples!
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Thank you very much, DragO sir. I am impressed with your explanation.

Whatson is perfectly right?
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
So these Neanderthals ate their cockles and mussels 84,000 years before Earth was created.

I do not mind this sort of joke, this sort of mockery when it is directed against vulgar creationism. The problem there is that "more often than not" it is actually aimed at Christianity.

I am now reading The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins, and it is loaded with this sort of mockery and he will not conceal his aims.

Which is really really sad.

May God send you a pair of winkles today, Drag0nspeaker, and do not forget to say a grace over it.

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whatson
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All that is ridiculous has to be ridiculed.

(Primarily the English vicar who came up with
the 6 000 years and any religious absurdities.)
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Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:52:00 PM

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How about we let people who want to believe in God do so, and those who do not want to believe do so as they choose? Seems like a good idea to me. No one has the authority to say others must be forced into believing anything.
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Yes.
People can believe in whatever they want to. No problem.

Posting jokes and satire - no problem.
The only limit I propose is that no-one should try to FORCE someone to change, or persecute anyone. "You spoke up against radical fundamental Christianity - you're fired!"

I'm far from atheist, but I know that the Earth is more than 6000 years old.
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Since God is omnipotent, he can create the past as easily as the future. Today he can create yesterday and the day before yesterday, and so forth (back?). Moreover, he decides which direction is forth and which is back and how many directions there are. You guys don't seem to realize what 'omnipotence' mean. It means that nothing is impossible to God, no matter how odd it seems to us mere mortals limited in our every action by the laws of nature. God is not limited by anything. He is above nature and its laws, above space and time.
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
"You spoke up against radical fundamental Christianity - you're fired!"

This is the first time I hear a story like that but I have heard different stories - "You were seen entering a church yesterday. We do not need the likes of you so put your партбилет on the table."

Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Posting jokes and satire - no problem.

Actually there is a problem. I do not think it is good to attack a nice lady wantonly just because she believes the Earth was created 6000 years ago. Which is what this thread is about.

And it is not good to run such buses in the cities full of those who believe in God:



Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I'm far from atheist, but I know that the Earth is more than 6000 years old.

If I am not mistaken the UK is a Christian state and the monarch is styled as "Defender of the Faith." I am a staunch atheist but it would warm the cockles of my heart (to continue with mollusks) if he was clapped in the Tower and that at Her Majesty's pleasure.

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Drag0nspeaker
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Quote:
"You were seen entering a church yesterday. We do not need the likes of you so put your партбилет on the table."
That's just as bad as the idea I quoted (not better or worse).

I got a bit confused by your reply, though.
Which "nice lady" who believes the Earth was created 6000 years ago?
There's no lady mentioned in the earlier posts. Think



But then you'd have to also imprison the people who put this on the buses.
It's not good to run such buses in the cities full of those who don't believe in God.

We have free speech here, so long as it doesn't incite violence.
Neither of those bus campaigns violate anything. Both are actually quite cheerful messages.

This sort of thing - yes, that incites hatred.

lazarius
Posted: Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:07:39 PM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Which "nice lady" who believes the Earth was created 6000 years ago?

https://forum.thefreedictionary.com/postst195912_DID-YOU-KNOW--6-Incredible-Complexity.aspx

hedy mmm wrote:
My husband of 45 yrs, was a creation scientist

whatson wrote:
If the Levantine imaginary being exited, it certainly would have at least one chuckle stumbling upon the oxymoron 'creation scientist'.


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
But then you'd have to also imprison the people who put this on the buses.

There is a difference. As an atheist I understand "try praying" as a piece of advice. If addressed to me I can just ignore it - there's nothing in it for an atheist to get in high dudgeon.

"There's probably no God. Let's party." is blasphemy to a Christian. It hurts them. It's as simple as that.

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Drag0nspeaker
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Wow, what a tangled web.

I believe a few things without any solid, physical proof.
If someone were to say "That's probably not true. Let's party!" I wouldn't be hurt.

I have people - "good Christian Americans" - calling my religion a 'cult', "devil's cult" - and calling us the antichrist.
I shrug it off - OK they don't think the same way I do - that's their hard luck!

It's only a few people. Most Americans (many of whom are Christian, and many of whom are Atheist) have the same attitude as I do. I don't believe the same as they do - that's MY hard luck.

Posts about this sort of thing should be in the Religion forum - not the Literature or Science forums, but sometimes other subjects are used for ulterior motives.

No worries.
lazarius
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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I believe a few things without any solid, physical proof.

I believe there's no God and this can not be proved. It's my religious knowledge.


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
If someone were to say "That's probably not true. Let's party!" I wouldn't be hurt.

The same here. But my mother believes in Jesus Christ and it would offend her if she saw such a bus.


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I have people - "good Christian Americans" - calling my religion a 'cult'

But it is a cult. :) If it hasn't been here for at least 400 years then it is a cult.


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
and calling us the antichrist.

There was a time when I used to call myself the Antichrist. :) Not that I had anything against Him. Then my mother bade me desist and I obeyed.


Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I don't believe the same as they do - that's MY hard luck.

Not believing is one thing - mocking something different.

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