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prince
Posted: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 4:37:30 PM
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He told me he would bring it(car keys) there.

He told me I would bring it(car keys) there.



What he actually meant was he was holding keys and he would handover keys to me at some place. What is the correct sentence for me to tell to someone about this information.


It looks simple but I always get confused.

Kindly help.













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thar
Posted: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 4:52:05 PM

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Car keys are plural, so the pronoun is 'them', not 'it'.


You are confusing direct speech and reported speech.

This is what he said, in the past:

He said, "I will bring them there."

But this is not a play or a TV script, and you are not writing dialogue. You are reporting what he said.

The important point is that YOU are reporting what he said. No speech marks, no dialogue.
So from your point of view, the pronoun is he, him.
He is the person who said that.
He is the person who will be bringing the keys.

He said that he would bring them there.

Note the 'I will' in direct speech in the past is changed to 'he would' in reported speech, because 'would' is the past tense of 'will'.




For example, if
He said, "You bring the keys",
then from your viewpoint that would be reported as
He said that I should bring the keys.

Because from Prince's viewpoint:
He said that I should bring the keys.
He (my friend) said it
I (Prince) will take the keys.

Does that make sense?

prince
Posted: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 11:15:42 PM
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Thanks Thar!

So when speaking always we use reported speech ,not direct speech which is used in scripts .
thar
Posted: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:09:53 AM

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Books use speech, as they give the characters words to say.

You can mimic his words, but the common way in conversation is to report what someone said, not repeat their exact words as if they are saying them.
So usually it is a normal sentence, not you acting out their dialogue.
Then the pronouns are from the viewpoint of the speaker of that sentence.
Eg
The teacher said I did well in the test today.
The doctor says I have to go back to see her next week.
My friend said he would bring the keys.





The difference is like the difference between the two ways of writing a post online
1. me quoting your words:

prince wrote:

It looks simple but I always get confused.


And
2 me saying (reporting) what you said, the meaning, if I am writing about you to someone else.:

Prince said it might look simple but he always gets confused.


That is by far the most common way to do things in normal conversation, because the normal world doesn't come with a [quote] button! Whistle


You will only repeat their exact words if you are trying to repeat exactly what they said, but that is rare. And your voice clearly makes the difference when you are quoting what someone said. The punctuation show that different phrasing.

Eg
A> My friend said he would bring the keys.
B> Are you sure? Because he told me that you would bring them.
A> No, I don't have them. He has the keys. We spoke on the phone this morning. He said, "I will bring the keys." He clearly said he would do it.
B> OK, I believe you. He'll bring the keys. I'll meet you both there.


I notice I've omitted 'that' from these sentences, which is fine and natural when it a simple clear sentence.
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