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Jagadeesh Bangalore
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:13:02 AM

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Good afternoon,

In the sentence " They sell carbon felt for a windscreen ... ", "carbon felt" is a composite material obtained by carbonising the felt. When referring to this material, should the two words 'Carbon' and 'Felt' be capitalised or hyphenated or both?

That is, which of
1. "carbon felt";
2. "Carbon Felt";
3. "carbon-felt"; or
4. "Carbon-Felt"

is the proper punctuation/usage?

I'd appreciate the response with details.

Thanks in advance


Wilmar (USA) 1M
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:56:44 AM

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What I find online, including by those who sell it, is simply carbon felt. Two words, no caps.
Wilmar (USA) 1M
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 6:56:48 AM

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What I find online, including by those who sell it, is simply carbon felt. Two words, no caps.
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 9:56:26 AM

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Good morning to you too, JB.

This is an example of a noun used as an adjective to modify another noun so it does not need to be hyphenated. Capitals would only be used if it were a brand name.

Check out some examples of nouns used as adjectives and if you google it you will find they call this all kinds of fancy names.

http://myenglishgrammar.com/lesson-12-modifiers/4-nouns-as-modifiers.html

As an aside, felt can be both a noun and a verb. English is strange, right?
FounDit
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:00:48 PM

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Jagadeesh Bangalore wrote:

Good afternoon,

In the sentence " They sell carbon felt for a windscreen ... ", "carbon felt" is a composite material obtained by carbonising the felt. When referring to this material, should the two words 'Carbon' and 'Felt' be capitalised or hyphenated or both?

That is, which of
1. "carbon felt";
2. "Carbon Felt";
3. "carbon-felt"; or
4. "Carbon-Felt"

is the proper punctuation/usage?

I'd appreciate the response with details.

Thanks in advance
Since it is obtained by carbonizing felt, it seems to me it should be called "carbonized felt".


Jagadeesh Bangalore
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:31:52 PM

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Hope123 wrote:
Good morning to you too, JB.

This is an example of a noun used as an adjective to modify another noun so it does not need to be hyphenated. Capitals would only be used if it were a brand name.

Check out some examples of nouns used as adjectives and if you google it you will find they call this all kinds of fancy names.

http://myenglishgrammar.com/lesson-12-modifiers/4-nouns-as-modifiers.html

As an aside, felt can be both a noun and a verb. English is strange, right?



Thanks a lot Hope. In fact, my very concern for proper punctuation was what you have expressed in your aside. The term 'carbon felt' gave me a strange & uneasy feeling! My first reaction was 'What did carbon feel?' That's why I wanted an unambiguous (?) way of writing the noun, if at all possible!

Thanks again
Jagadeesh Bangalore
Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 2:41:07 PM

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FounDit wrote:
Jagadeesh Bangalore wrote:

Good afternoon,
...
is the proper punctuation/usage?

I'd appreciate the response with details.

Thanks in advance
Since it is obtained by carbonizing felt, it seems to me it should be called "carbonized felt".




I totally agree with you FounDit. That was my first thought too, but when I looked up the usage on the web, I found most companies and agencies marketing that item, used both 'carbon felt' and 'Carbon Felt', with a few instances of 'Carbon felt' too. Apparently the industry uses the name 'carbon felt' and accepts it.

But, as Hope123 has mentioned in his aside, (and my response to the same), I had a very uneasy / uncomfortable feeling to use 'carbon felt'. Hence I thought if that could be fixed by proper punctuation.

Thanks a lot
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