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Fruity
Posted: Friday, May 31, 2019 12:15:33 PM

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- judge someone by something
- judge someone on something
I think that these two mean the same thing. Is the second one used only in American English?

http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/judge
You should not judge people by their appearance.

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You shouldn't judge people on their appearance.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Friday, May 31, 2019 1:14:56 PM

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Hello Fruity.
There is a difference - and it is not something you can see in those dictionaries.

If you judge someone by their appearance, you look at them and think "He is wearing worn clothes with a few holes, his skin is stained in odd places and his hair's a mess - therefore, he is a lazy, dirty and probably criminal character."
You see his appearance, and you assume things about his character.

If you judge someone on their appearance, you look at them and judge what you see. You see his skin is dark and assume he didn't wash (rather than that he has a tan), or you see his worn clothes and assume he can't afford good clothes.
You see his appearance, and you assume things about his appearance.

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If you are a judge marking (grading) students' examination papers.

You judge the students by their answers. You look at their answers and decide things about the students.

You judge the answers on grammar. You look at the grammar and decide whether it's good grammar (or not).
siouxfan
Posted: Friday, May 31, 2019 7:16:16 PM

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When you think about it does it really matter?
Jagadeesh Bangalore
Posted: Saturday, June 1, 2019 12:57:32 AM

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Drag0nspeaker wrote:
Hello Fruity.
There is a difference - and it is not something you can see in those dictionaries.

If you judge someone by their appearance, you look at them and think "He is wearing worn clothes with a few holes, his skin is stained in odd places and his hair's a mess - therefore, he is a lazy, dirty and probably criminal character."
You see his appearance, and you assume things about his character.

If you judge someone on their appearance, you look at them and judge what you see. You see his skin is dark and assume he didn't wash (rather than that he has a tan), or you see his worn clothes and assume he can't afford good clothes.
You see his appearance, and you assume things about his appearance.

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If you are a judge marking (grading) students' examination papers.

You judge the students by their answers. You look at their answers and decide things about the students.

You judge the answers on grammar. You look at the grammar and decide whether it's good grammar (or not).


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Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Saturday, June 1, 2019 2:55:13 AM

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siouxfan wrote:
When you think about it does it really matter?


Sometimes, it doesn't matter at all - but there are times. . .

Say you meet someone new. for some reason (they've been working in the garden) they look messy and dirty.

If you judge them by their appearance, you judge the whole person. You may think "They are lazy, gross, sleazy, coarse. I don't like them." - or you might think "They're very hard working and industrious to be so dirty." - both of these are illogical judgements,
You judge the whole person based on their appearance.

If you judge someone on their appearance, you judge the person, but only on the subject of appearance. "Wow, he's filthy - I wonder what happened" or "Wow! It looks like he's straight from the garden." - these are fairly logical judgements, but they could still affect your attitude to the person. Best to not even judge their appearance (though it's hard not to).
You are really judging the appearance, not the person.
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