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Sanjay
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:44:40 AM
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Hi Members,

Please elaborate difference between said and told.

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leonAzul
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:59:50 PM

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sanjay wrote:
Hi Members,

Please elaborate difference between said and told.

Thanks


A person says words and sentences (what is explicitly uttered).

A person tells a story (the message that is conveyed).

"Tell" is also used figuratively.

"Every picture tells a story"

"His said we were to trust his words, but his actions told a very different tale."
prince
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 5:02:37 PM
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But dont we use it more often , like for example "he told me to come",than "he said to me to come".

Yours,Prince
IMcRout
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 5:56:36 PM
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The teacher says , 'Do your homework.'
The landlady says, 'Keep off the grass, please.'
Sign in a zoo, 'Don't feed the animals.'

All these sentences contain orders or imperatives.
Put into reported speech they become,

The teacher told us to do our homework.
The teacher said we should do our homework.

She asked us / told us politely to keep off the grass.
She said we should keep off the grass.

That sign told us not to feed the animals.

In traditional BE the verb 'tell' needs both a direct object (what you tell) and an indirect object (whom you tell something).

In AE I often find that the indirect object is left out.

He told that he was 35 years old.
jmacann
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:37:36 PM
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Please notice that frequency does not play a part in what IMR is trying to explain.
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:59:02 PM

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I was said to be a good guy = people told each other I was a good guy
I was told to be a good guy = people told me I'm a good guy
leonAzul
Posted: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:15:50 PM

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George Burns: "Say goodnight, Gracie."
Gracie Allen: "Goodnight!"
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Sanjay
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srirr
Posted: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:17:27 AM

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I feel that when a simple statement is made, "say" can be used, however when something important with intention (order/request/instruction/information) is said, "tell" can be used.

He said a lot about his life.
He told that he was a professor. (an information)
He said that he was a professor. (nothing special or worth importance; only a declaration)
Romany
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:36:49 AM
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Srirr - I think you have got a little mixed up. Did you read Bochy's post? He was correct. You will have noted that he said that "told" needs a direct and indirect object - so you will realise that "He told that he was a professor" is incorrect. Told who? "He told us that..."

The choice of word has absolutely nothing to do with the content being important or not important.
leonAzul
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:21:06 AM

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Jyrkkä Jätkä wrote:

I was told to be a good guy = people told me I'm a good guy


Please take note:

I was told to be a good guy = people told me to be a good guy

I was told (that) I'm a good guy = people told me (that) I'm a good guy

The verb "to tell to" is different from the verb "to tell".

The verb "to tell" has the sense "to share a message".

The verb "to tell to…" has the sense "to issue a command to…"





Mama told me not to come…
srirr
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:26:30 AM

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Of course, tell needs an object. In context and in running matter, the object may be hidden. It is understoood as per context.

A and B are talking and B starts a story. Suddenly the phone rings and A gets up to answer the call. He comes back in a minute and says, "Ok B, now tell."

I think it is quite understood here that the object is B. It is hidden in the sentence.

I feel that say can take place of tell, but tell can not be used in all instances of say.
IMcRout
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:59:51 AM
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I say, old boy! This is rather telling, isn't it?

All told, I can say that - like in most other threads here - some people read what others have written before them, some don't.
Jus' sayin'.

For those, who still can't tell the difference - which is not easy for many, especially if words from one's mother tongue keep interfering - I can only say that there are literally hundreds of exercises on the web (check the link).

They can help you practice and exorcize that tell-tale little sprite in the back of your neck, who keeps whispering the wrong solution into your ear.

'nuff said.
srirr
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:07:24 AM

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Thanks IMcR.
leonAzul
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:19:55 AM

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IMcRout wrote:
I say, old boy! This is rather telling, isn't it?


Told to whom?
srirr
Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:34:20 AM

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leonAzul wrote:
IMcRout wrote:
I say, old boy! This is rather telling, isn't it?


Told to whom?


To whom it may concern.
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