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mcurrent
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:32:00 AM

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The text is:

By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, an output second only to Euler's.

What does "an output second" mean in this context?
Thanks.
BobShilling
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:40:26 AM
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'Output second' is no a phrase.

It as an output that is second only to Euler's, i.e., only Euler wrote more papers. Euler is first in the chart, 'he' is second.
thar
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:40:38 AM

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Not 'output second'.

He wrote a lot of stuff. But what does that number actually mean? Put that into perspective by comparing it with other scientists:

An output

which was

second only to Euler's.

Who had the greatest output?
Who had the second greatest output?

Only Euler wrote more than him. Nobody else.

It is like the results of a race. I came second to Usain Bolt in a recent 100m race.
(A little fib, that one)

Quote:
second to none
phrase of second
the best, worst, fastest, etc.
"the group has a reputation that is second to none in the building industry"
synonyms: incomparable, matchless, unrivalled,


Quote:

second only to....
phrase
If you say that something is second only to something else, you mean that only that thing is better or greater than it.
As a major health risk, hepatitis is second only to tobacco.


edit
actually, that example is very bad - you don't catch tobacco or smoke hepatitis.
A comparison between alcohol and tobacco, or hepatitis and cancer - that would be reasonable.


edit - posted same time.


Islami
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 9:53:49 AM
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thar sir, Can we write it as follows;

By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, a record, second only to Euler's.
thar
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 10:17:55 AM

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Islami wrote:
thar sir, Can we write it as follows;

By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, a record, second only to Euler's.



If you have a comma then you are saying it was a record (and then giving extra information)

By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, [which was] a record, (which was second only to Euler's).[/quote]

'A record' is something that is best - an olympic record, a world record. Something that is second to something else is not a record.

You need to omit the comma, so the whole phrase is together, not split apart
- an output second only to Euler's [output]
or
- an amount second only to Euler

You might be able to get away with:
a record second only to Euler

But not with a comma after record.

Does that make sense?

NKM
Posted: Monday, September 3, 2018 12:14:58 PM

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Islami wrote:
thar sir, Can we write it as follows;

By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, a record, second only to Euler's.

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If you drop the second comma you have:
"By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, a record second only to Euler's."
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"By the time he died he had written more than eight hundred papers and seven books, a record exceeded only by Euler."

This works because of the original, primary meaning of the noun "record": "that which has been recorded or documented".
(The "minutes of a meeting" is a record of what went on during the meeting; a "police record" is a compilation of one's dealings with the police.)

  

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