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Tomahawk71
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 4:10:30 AM

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Hi all,
I don't understand why "worry" is used in the bold part.
Do they suggest we should find dignity and social status not through our jobs?
Should we find other ways?

QUOTE:
We are part of a collective intelligence. As our machines continue to
integrate into our networks and our society, they become an extension
of our intelligence — bringing us into an extended intelligence.
Some of the Singularitarians believe that it won’t be long before AI
is good enough to put many humans out of work. This may be true, especially in the short
run. However, others argue that the increase in productivity will allow
us to create a universal basic income to support the people made redundant
by the machines. At the same time, many worry that our jobs
give us dignity, social status, and structure
— that we need to be more
concerned with how we will entertain ourselves and what we’ll create,
possibly through academic or creative endeavors, than with merely
providing income.
Kirill Vorobyov
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 4:23:09 AM

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... many people express concern that ...
Tomahawk71
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 4:45:08 AM

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Kirill Vorobyov wrote:
... many people express concern that ...

Why it is a concern, I don't understand.
tunaafi
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:25:09 AM

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They are concerned that, with the loss of jobs, they will have no dignity, social status or structure.
Romany
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 5:58:47 AM
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Punctuation seems to be a subject not many learners give importance to. Learning to "read" punctuation is necessary to an understanding of written English.

There is no full stop after the bold words - there is a dash. A dash tells us there is more to come - an explanation.(Do you see what I mean?)A dash doesn't STOP a sentence - it gives the explanatory part of the SAME sentence. So he gave the words in bold and then explained them. He gave the reason he said it; which was because "...we need to be more concerned ...."

Hope123
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 9:16:52 AM

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Romany wrote:

Punctuation seems to be a subject not many learners give importance to. Learning to "read" punctuation is necessary to an understanding of written English.

There is no full stop after the bold words - there is a dash. A dash tells us there is more to come - an explanation.(Do you see what I mean?)A dash doesn't STOP a sentence - it gives the explanatory part of the SAME sentence. So he gave the words in bold and then explained them. He gave the reason he said it; which was because "...we need to be more concerned ...."



Excellent pick up, Romany.

A smile is a curve that sets everything straight. Phyllis Diller
Tomahawk71
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 9:25:33 AM

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Romany wrote:

Punctuation seems to be a subject not many learners give importance to. Learning to "read" punctuation is necessary to an understanding of written English.

There is no full stop after the bold words - there is a dash. A dash tells us there is more to come - an explanation.(Do you see what I mean?)A dash doesn't STOP a sentence - it gives the explanatory part of the SAME sentence. So he gave the words in bold and then explained them. He gave the reason he said it; which was because "...we need to be more concerned ...."



What is the logical connection between the blue and red parts?
At the same time, many worry that our jobs
give us dignity, social status, and structure
that we need to be more
concerned with how we will entertain ourselves and what we’ll create,
possibly through academic or creative endeavors, than with merely
providing income.


My suggestion is:
"Many worry that we try to get dignity, etc. through our jobs and that's not healthy. They argue that we need to be more concerned with..."
Hope123
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:10:01 PM

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The connection comes from the previous sentence, Tomahawk.

"However, others argue that the increase in productivity will allow us to create a universal basic income to support the people made redundant by the machines."

Productivity may be able to produce a basic income, but since we may lose some positives by no longer needing to work, we wil have to find creative endeavors to create other positives for living a good life.

Sort of like being retired! :)

A smile is a curve that sets everything straight. Phyllis Diller
Hope123
Posted: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:23:00 PM

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To answer the original post - yes, we should find other ways and prepare for changes if we no longer need to work, especially if work is where one gets the most satisfaction.

But there really is no need for real worry - just be concerned enough to prepare for changes. It is actually not hard at all.

But change is something people often find hard to accept and to act upon in preparation, especially if it is a future goal.

A smile is a curve that sets everything straight. Phyllis Diller
Tomahawk71
Posted: Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:37:00 AM

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Hope123 wrote:
To answer the original post - yes, we should find other ways and prepare for changes if we no longer need to work, especially if work is where one gets the most satisfaction.

But there really is no need for real worry - just be concerned enough to prepare for changes. It is actually not hard at all.

But change is something people often find hard to accept and to act upon in preparation, especially if it is a future goal.


Thank you, Hope. It's clearer now!
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