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robjen
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 3:19:24 AM
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A few days ago, my friend said the sentence below and talked about it with my other friends and me.

(ex) He said,"You shouldn't jot down more notes than is needed."


We think the green phrase is grammatically wrong because there is no noun between "than" and "is needed".

Is it really wrong? Please help me. Thanks a lot.
Medea
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:26:08 AM

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Hii,

I think it is a kind of passive sentence, and there is the first part of the comparative so I think the sentence is correct:

"You shouldn't jot down more notes than is needed."

Hope this help

Romany
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:37:29 AM
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Guys - the word "notes" is plural: thus the sentence is grammatically incorrect as the verb used is singular.
Clyde of Oz
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:38:20 AM

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Shouldn't it be "than are needed" ?
Romany
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 7:51:08 AM
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(Hi Clyde - see the post directly above yours)
TheParser
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 7:59:45 AM
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robjen wrote:


(ex) He said,"You shouldn't jot down more notes than is needed."





NOT A TEACHER

I believe that the complete sentence (for analysis) is:

"You shouldn't jot down more notes than [those that] are needed." (It is more natural in conversation to delete the two words in the brackets, but you might consider using them in formal writing.)
milinad
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:14:15 AM
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the verb 'is' can be dropped
(ex) He said,"You shouldn't jot down more notes than needed."
whatson
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:15:44 AM
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FAR FROM BEING A CERTIFIED TEACHER

May I suggest omitting the linking verb in conversation:

"You shouldn't jot down more notes then needed."

EDIT Almost simultaneous w/ previous.
Cosms Taaba
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:29:27 AM

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We simply failed to identify the implied antecedent noun, that is all. "You shouldn't jot down more notes than (what/it) is needed."
NKM
Posted: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:07:04 PM

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If you're going to use a verb there, it should be plural ("are").

But there's no need for the verb at all; just "more than needed" is perfectly clear and grammatically correct.

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