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Grandma's Aspirin and Coke: The Date-Rape Drug? Options
MiTziGo
Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 12:39:58 PM

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My grandmother is a big consumer of Diet Coke; it is her drink of choice. However, whenever she needs to take pills, particularly aspirin, she insists on water. She claims that drinking Coke with aspirin makes you woozy and is equivalent to the date-rape drug. No matter how much we try and convince her otherwise, she refuses to accept it. It has become something of a joke in our family and we lovingly tease her about it quite often.

My questions are: Where did she come up with this? Was this common thinking 50 or 60 years ago? Was this ever true?
Wolfie
Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 1:16:11 PM
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It might be because she heard there was coke(as in cocaine) residues in coca cola and thought it would be a bad mix :P
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Caffeine is a stimulant. It also acts as a vasoconstrictor (constricts your blood vessels), as a diuretic, and it may even increase blood pressure.

Aspirin is an analgesic, anti-inflamitory, and anti-coagulant drug.

Apart from some other chemical reaction between the two, it looks like blood vessels will constrict and a thinned blood will flow faster and easier with increased pressure. This could lead to dizziness.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 3:44:01 PM
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Fred you nailed it!

My mom thought this as well, but because she read that Coca-Cola could remove rust like acid.
Acid, the chemical and acid, the drug; were the same to her, thus she thought Coca-Cola would make you hallucinate. We never had soda-pop in the house. If we were allowed to have pop, it was Cott Ginger Ale only. You do not miss what you do not have. I do not drink soda-pop at all. If I want a carbonated beverage, I use an old school soda server.
Christine
Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 4:24:30 PM

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I heard that Coke + aspirin hurt the stomach.
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Bayer sells an over-the-counter drug made out of aspirin and... caffeine! It is meant to relieve you from aches and make you feel better, more awake, thanks to the caffeine. Many medicines that are used to treat the symptoms of flu or colds contain this kind of combination although not necessarily aspirin, but other pain-killer. Aspirin by itself is already bad for the stomach and intestine, but coke doesn't make it any worse. In fact, it could actually be a little better because the bubbles in it soothe the stomach.
A truly bad combination of beverage and drugs is grape-fruit juice and any medication. This juice makes many drugs work much faster than what they are meant to.
Christine
Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:00:24 PM

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Excedrin has caffeine.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 9:25:45 PM
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According to Wikipedia, "Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed."
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Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:45:46 PM
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Salicylic Acid and Aspartame, in a low pH (around 3.0) solution of caffeine, a methylxanthine, all mixed together in the stomach, yummy, and gotta be good for ya. Especially if one is sensitive to phenylketones or is elderly and prone to losing balance due to some otic hair fibers missing or being irritated, or sufferung from sinus congestion.
early_apex
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ceejaygee wrote:
According to Wikipedia, "Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed."


Where did it go?
Rhondish
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Caffine was added to aspirin for its blood-thinning ability, allowing the aspirin to be delivered more quickly, thus reliving the ache more quickly. BOTH are bad for the stomach. Add a highly acidic, carbonated and caffinated beverage to the mix and it is no wonder some folks get a bit woozy.
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early_apex wrote:
ceejaygee wrote:
According to Wikipedia, "Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed."


Where did it go?


Cocaine was not a controlled, illegal substance in 1903. It was removed as a result of the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act.
TALBUIXE
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MichalG’s Grandmother is intelligent. Coming from the popular culture Grandmother adopt and transmit knowledge to us, I believe that if you have to have an aspirin the best combination is water.

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Rhondish wrote:
early_apex wrote:
ceejaygee wrote:
According to Wikipedia, "Coca-Cola did once contain an estimated nine milligrams of cocaine per glass, but in 1903 it was removed."


Where did it go?


Cocaine was not a controlled, illegal substance in 1903. It was removed as a result of the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act.


Yeah, I was just being Fred-like and asking open questions. As I understand the history, for many years the extracted cocaine was sold to the US government for pharmaceutical purposes, and the de-cocainized coca leaves were used to flavor the beverage. I think the Coca-Cola company has now dropped the coca leaves from the recipe, rather than encourage the cultivation of coca plants. Needless to say, we are a couple of steps removed from "the real thing", as the market for sugary soda water is wider than that for patent medicines and tonics.
early_apex
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Christine wrote:
Excedrin has caffeine.



I think caffeine was always the added ingredient in Anacin, which was supposed to make it more effective than plain aspirin.
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They make reference to this in the movie GREASE from back in '74. The legend itself is very old. You can read about legends at www.snopes.com and search aspirin & diet coke.
Nibbles
Posted: Thursday, June 4, 2009 3:32:11 PM
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Rhondish wrote:
Caffine was added to aspirin for its blood-thinning ability, allowing the aspirin to be delivered more quickly, thus reliving the ache more quickly. BOTH are bad for the stomach. Add a highly acidic, carbonated and caffinated beverage to the mix and it is no wonder some folks get a bit woozy.


Caffeine is added to aspirin to increase aspirin's analgesic effects and absorption. Caffeine is also a bronchial dilator and vasodilator as well as a central nervous system stimulant.

Aspirin, i.e., acetylsalicylic acid, works as an anticoagulant ('blood thinner') by inhibiting thromboxane A2 in platelets, thus inhibiting platelet aggregation during the blood coagulation cascade.

The normal pH of stomach is around 2.0. Most carbonated beverages are less acidic, with a pH of around 3.0. Aspirin has been shown to increase the risk or incidence of gastrointestinal ulcers, especially when taken in high doses or with extended use. Many aspirin formularies are buffered in an attempt at reducing the untoward side effect of gastrointestinal ulcers.

Diet Coke contains aspartame, of which the various metabolites include aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. Methanol is further metabolised to formaldehyde, formic acid, and a diketopiperazine.

As Rhondish states, these compounds Aspirin, Caffeine, and Aspartame when taken with a low pH carbonated beverage are likely to produce some 'wooziness' in some individuals due to the separate and combined pharmacological effects of the individual compounds and their metabolites. Furthermore, most elderly people are on some form of medication, which may also contribute to, or exacerbate, the unpleasant effects.
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