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Hurricane Matthew Heading to Florida after Demolishing Haiti Options
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:45:28 PM

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I mentioned about Haiti needing aid in another thread. So far reports say 264 people have died in Haiti and there are billions of dollars in damage from a recent storm.

The same massive storm, Hurricane Matthew, is heading to the east coast of FL where people are being evacuated. (Unfortunately there are reports of price gouging by hotels in FL tripling their rates overnight, gas stations doubling and up to more than tripling the price of gas, and $30 was the cost of a case of bottled water. There are reports that police are knocking on doors and owners of mobile homes are foolishly refusing to leave!)

Our friends with homes on the east coast are not there yet but are worrying about their condo. The rest of our friends are on the gulf coast. They'll get the tail end of the storm. It will go up the Atlantic Coast, but right now is projected to turn back to FL.

It is reported to have winds 140 - 150 mph. The biggest storm to hit FL . 11 ft storm surge, 50 inches of rain. Disney World shut down for the fourth time ever. A category 4 storm, the second highest.

Obama has declared a state of emergency in FL.

Be safe, Florida. (And SC etc.) Get the heck out!



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boneyfriend
Posted: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:33:18 PM

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This is a big storm. I live in central SC. We are projected to receive 2-4" of rain. We are not in a high worry zone. I'm just worried that a dead tree in my back yard will be blown down and will knock down all the lines that are attached to the back of my house. That has happened once before when one trunk of the tree fell during a storm. I would have had the tree taken down if I had the money. Everyone around here is tense, hoping that they don't lose power. But I guess we are in a much better situation than Florida. I wish Floridians the very best.
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, October 6, 2016 11:26:09 PM

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boneyfriend wrote:
This is a big storm. I live in central SC. We are projected to receive 2-4" of rain. We are not in a high worry zone. I'm just worried that a dead tree in my back yard will be blown down and will knock down all the lines that are attached to the back of my house. That has happened once before when one trunk of the tree fell during a storm. I would have had the tree taken down if I had the money. Everyone around here is tense, hoping that they don't lose power. But I guess we are in a much better situation than Florida. I wish Floridians the very best.


Keep us posted, Boneyfriend.
Listening . . .
Posted: Friday, October 7, 2016 9:44:54 AM
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This is a mean storm. I have many friends on the east coast who decided to evacuate in my direction. I am in FL but in the Panhandle. Our weather is (guiltily) beautiful. We are already collecting donations to send supplies and will help immediately once the storm is gone. I am worried about the continued path of the storm as it heads back out to the Atlantic! It looks like it may cross over the southern tip of FL and head into the Gulf. Matthew ... has something to say. We need to listen. Anxious
Hope123
Posted: Friday, October 7, 2016 10:37:11 AM

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Our friends places in Stuart, FL , where we went for five years, got off lucky. It was downgraded to a 3 and just brushed them. Storm surges are still a worry in some areas and winds are high.

Just heard a newscaster say it is hard for some FL residents who haven't done so, to register to vote, as I think they just have four days left. But the main thing is that the people remain safe.
Absurdicuss
Posted: Friday, October 7, 2016 10:51:14 PM
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Hello Hope, I just noticed your proverb and believe as you do that it is fundamentally true. Good one.


Hey Boney, we're watching the big storm's approach as it travels up the coast on the weather channel and hoping that you're safe.

Absurdicuss
Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:49:31 AM
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Dear Hope - you've changed your signature. Sadly it has taken a nose dive.

Hillary Clinton is a world-class criminal who cares for nothing but power.

One need only conduct a brief bit of bona fide fact checking to discover the tip of the Clinton criminal iceberg.

In fact, the Bush/Clinton crime connection goes all the way back to WJC's tenure as Arkansas Gov.

Your signature will soon be incontrovertibly proven grossly inaccurate.

Hillary for Prison
Hope123
Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:34:14 AM

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Abs,

We're glad to be Canadians where we don't advocate putting our politcal opponents in jail or hinting to our supporters to assassinate them - they do that in banana republics.

Edited - this article is stale dated (2013) for the unemployment rate as it is much lower now and there are fewer people in the US with no health insurance now, but the other facts such as use of torture, high infant mortality rates, gaps in life expectancy, violence and guns, etc. point to an ever increasing resemblance to a banana republic for the US. Trump has just highlighted and brought it to the attention of the rest of the world as to how many of its citizens actually think that way. No matter who wins this election, the US reputation around the world has diminshed once again after Obama, against all odds, managed to restore it somewhat.

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/11/10_ways_america_has_come_to_resemble_a_banana_republic/
Hope123
Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:22:26 PM

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"America's strength relies on smarts, judgment, cool resolve, & precise, strategic application of power."

Abs, I bet if I took Hillary's name off the quote you'd think it is a great quote. I certainly can't see Trump managing to do any of the quote.
Absurdicuss
Posted: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:40:04 PM
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LOL - you're right!

What made the US great IMHO is "We the People" - wielding by consent - a system of limited government where the freedom of self-determination, entrepreneurship, innovation, equality, i.e. liberty, are recognized as inalienable rights codified in the US Constitution as law.

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Donald is a shrewd internationally successful businessman who genuinely (we hope) loves his country. He is not a politician, not politically correct and not bought by lobbyists.

It is no exaggeration to state that the entirety of the US media/corporate/political establishment is arrayed against him.

This is the same establishment that has been crapping on us and selling us out for the past 50 yrs.

They hate Donald ergo he is the people's candidate.

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Unrelated but interesting

What a different world we live in now compared to yesteryear.

1944 - 18-year-olds storm the beaches of Normandy in the face of death.

2016 - 18-year-olds need a "safe space" to flee because words hurt.

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Unemployment figures in the US are cooked.

Once a recipients unemployment benefits are exhausted they're no longer counted amongst the unemployed, hence the numbers magically decrease creating the illusion of less unemployment.

State run media helps perpetuate the illusion by never mentioninig this fact. They only regurgitate. There is no free media here except on the internet.
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Obamacare is a nightmare for employers, small businesses, the middle class, the economy in general and sick people. Costs have skyrocketed, quality of care diminished.
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Obama is seen by half the country as a weak, apologetic, ineffective globalist whose America last policy is a source of continuous frustration.

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In light of what is known of the Hillary leadership style, and her maniacal power lust, one shudders at the thought of the psychopathic designs she would perpetrate upon our nation and the world if given the opportunity.

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Personally, I am weary of the US being the world's policeman. I view our government as an imperial corporatocracy hell bent on subjugation wherever it can be achieved while invoking the worthiness of noble causes as their smoke screen.

Anyway...I really like the other quote you had but have forgotten it. doh

Though we rarely agree I always appreciate your point of view and I'm certain that we've more in common than not.

Cheers






Hope123
Posted: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:39:15 AM

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Hi Abs,

It's a common misconception that people whose UI benefits are used up are not counted. In fact, they don't get the rate from the number of people drawing insurance. They have a huge survey that has gone out every month since 1940. There are other links you check as well as this one.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/jobless-rate-and-unemployment-benefits/

Quote -
"We get this a lot, and you are right to be skeptical. It’s a common misconception that only those who are getting unemployment benefits are counted. If that were the case the official rate would look a lot lower than it really is, and that’s exactly why the Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn’t do it that way.
The official unemployment figures put out each month by BLS are actually based on a huge survey. The BLS explains it pretty clearly:..." End quote.

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In fact there are different unemployment rates - Up to U 6. All statistics are readily available.


http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp

The U6 rate in US (includes everyone who is even thinking about a job) is back to where it was in May 2008 (9.7) under Bush, before it took the wild ride caused during Bush's reign long before Obama took over in January 2009. It had been as high as 17.1. Let's see - that's 7.4 % Obama brought it down - and it takes time to make jobs.

It is amazing he has gotten it back to 9.7 after the mess the US was in because the govt relaxed the banking and Wall Street rules. Canada's economy did not suffer the same way because we have stiffer banking regulations. And now Trump wants to dismantle the rules Obama put in place to stop the crisis from happening. Again.

The U3 rate is now 5.0. Those Actively looking for work. It is all relative - same comparison goes. April 2008 and Sept 2016 is 5.0. It had been as high as 10.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

(Both unemployment rates in Canada are always higher than in the US by 2.5 to 3 %.)

(And don't tell me that some in both countries are not saying they are looking for work when they aren't really. I have a sil who was really retiring but drew UI - says she paid into it. But that is not what it is for.)
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BTW - All those frustrated workers who feel they didn't get anywhere and expect Trump to 'fix it' - forget, or didn't even know, about Republicans blocking Obama's Job's Act -

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/jobs_act.pdf

The other half of the country agrees with American allies around the world that Obama brought the US from the brink of financial disaster and it is now beginning to recover even more. In fact Bill Clinton and Obama are the only two recent presidents to lower the deficit. And around the world Obama has certainly improved the reputation of the US from what it was when he took office - in spite of being blocked at every turn. The Republicans are even talking about blocking Hillary from appointing a Supreme Court Justice the same as they did to Obama - and that is a president's right. If that is ineffectual, put the blame where it belongs. And using international diplomacy instead of going to war is not weakness. He even held Iran's own money from them until they released US hostages.

According to independent sources, Trump's plan would raise the debt by billions more than Hillary's would and they even want her to do a better plan to not raise the debt at all, in fact lower it.


Hope123
Posted: Monday, October 31, 2016 1:45:36 AM

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Trump is wealthy and he poses as such but he is not a successful businessman. He had tried to start several businesses that failed. I did post a list of such failures in another thread. Seems to me that anybody with a million dollar stake in 1975 dollars (almost 5 million in 2016 dollars) and the chance to get or borrow millions more from a parent should be able to parlay that into a fortune. Without going bankrupt - what was it - six times? Plus he now has his inheritance from his father.

All those buildings with his name on them around the world are owned by others who just pay a fee to use his name. That's how he makes his money now. By selling his name because of his original Trump Tower and because he's a good salesman.

Two towers in Canada - Toronto and Vancouver - are now trying to get his name removed. Ivanka's clothing line was heavily discounted in a store I was in the other day and Trump's hotel occupancy rates and prices have dropped a great deal lately.

He has been involved in 3500 lawsuits, far more than several others in real estate combined. He told people who supplied him with goods and labor - take so many cents on the dollar or you can sue me. People went out of business because he stiffed them.

He expanded into mortgages when economists knew the housing market was going under, and there were the usual problems and lawsuits.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Mortgage

And - Who loses $916 million dollars in one year running a casino? Trump. Everybody knows the house never loses! d'oh!

He has used the media for free political advertisement and they have used him to make money. I don't call that being against him. They just print the obnoxious things he says - when did they ever lie about him? A CDN journalist has been keeping track of Trump's lies - I think he said it's at 487 of the facts he checked.

I see just as many negative stories about Clinton, and in fact she got a lot less publicity. BTW - when SHE won the nomination THREE major papers printed HER HUSBAND'S PICTURE to announce that fact. I guess women shouldn't be surprised but I was.

IMHO, you would find out Trump would soon be just as beholden to special interests when he tried to get anything done. But maybe the Dems would be more willing to work for the good of the country than the GOP has with Obama. That would not be hard, btw.

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Good luck with what ever happens. Since Sanders pushed Hillary from Centre to be against trade, it probably won't matter much to us which one wins trade wise. However, if Trump wins, our dollar is forecast to rise as investors are more likely to see Canada as a safe place to invest.

And don't worry (other thread) - we have no reason to want to invade you. ;) Whistle


Hope123
Posted: Monday, October 31, 2016 2:13:11 AM

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Addendum re Trump Mortgage -

Ms. Jennifer McGovern, a former employee of Trump Mortgage, brokered a $26,500,000 financing, which earned more than $500,000 in commissions for Trump Mortgage. Trump Mortgage collected their commission, but stiffed McGovern. McGovern filed a lawsuit and, in 2009, obtained a judgment of US$298,274 against Trump Mortgage. To date, the judgment remains unsatisfied.[1][5]

A U.S. Department of the Treasury tax lien was implemented on Trump Mortgage in 2009 for US$3,555 in unpaid taxes.[1]

From Wiki.
Hope123
Posted: Monday, October 31, 2016 9:16:39 AM

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Abs, I think the quote you like is this one - from the lid of a box of organic spearmint pastilles. It says it is a proverb. I posted it for two reasons. One because it is the exact opposite of how Trump treats people so it was apropos for now.

But I like it mainly because it reminds me of how my husband treats, and always has treated all people, both in business and in his personal life. I have admired that about him. You always know where he stands and he doesn't "beat about the bush." He gets his point across diplomatically and confidently and always treats all people with respect, no matter who they are. I have never seen or heard him do differently in the 60 years he has been my friend.

"One can easily judge the character of a person by the way they treat people who can do nothing for them."


SALUD!
will
Posted: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 7:50:17 AM
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Absurdicuss wrote:
Unrelated but interesting

What a different world we live in now compared to yesteryear.

1944 - 18-year-olds storm the beaches of Normandy in the face of death.

2016 - 18-year-olds need a "safe space" to flee because words hurt.

Interesting how?

Are you suggesting societies that (perhaps go too far in an) attempt to promote tolerance towards others are better or worse than societies that sacrifice millions of lives as if they were a worthless commodity?

The estimated death toll for WW2 is put at something like 60 million… including the Normandy landings where the death rate was literally too large to accurately count. Surely well meant kid gloves has got to be a vast improvement Eh?

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