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Luker4
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:53:35 AM

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Poland first to fight!

Enjoy :) ....well his narrative is often a bit strange but the movies are quite interesting.
TheParser
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:16:40 AM
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I have just read that Poland was the first nation to break some of the Nazi military codes.

(Later in the war, the British did excellent work in continuing to break those codes, but the article -- which I no longer have -- said that the Allies owed a big debt of gratitude to Poland.}
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:40:31 AM

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Luker4 wrote:
Poland first to fight!

In 1939 'the war continued on the biggest territory in history'.
Poles saved Britain.

And the way he pulls our president into his story is amazing.

This Polish rooster belongs in the Politics section.

By the way
1 The lands that were annexed by the USSR in 1939 belong and ever belonged to Ukraine, Belorussia, and Lithuania. For example Vilnius the capital of Lithuania was seized by Poles in 1920:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius_Region

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After a staged mutiny by Lucjan Żeligowski Poles took control over the area, and organised elections, which were boycotted by most Lithuanians, but also by many Jews and Belarusians because of strong Polish military control.

2 The only Poles that were real heroes and fought against Germany did so as a part of the Soviet army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_East
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:21:27 AM

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TheParser wrote:
I have just read that Poland was the first nation to break some of the Nazi military codes.

(Later in the war, the British did excellent work in continuing to break those codes, but the article -- which I no longer have -- said that the Allies owed a big debt of gratitude to Poland.}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:49:08 AM

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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
Luker4 wrote:
Poland first to fight!

In 1939 'the war continued on the biggest territory in history'.
Poles saved Britain.

And the way he pulls our president into his story is amazing.

This Polish rooster belongs in the Politics section.

By the way
1 The lands that were annexed by the USSR in 1939 belong and ever belonged to Ukraine, Belorussia, and Lithuania. For example Vilnius the capital of Lithuania was seized by Poles in 1920:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius_Region

Quote:
After a staged mutiny by Lucjan Żeligowski Poles took control over the area, and organised elections, which were boycotted by most Lithuanians, but also by many Jews and Belarusians because of strong Polish military control.

2 The only Poles that were real heroes and fought against Germany did so as a part of the Soviet army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_East


There I have to disagree with you, there were Poles who fought heroically with the Western Allies during the War.
For example during the Battle of Britain.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I/145_Polish_Fighter_Squadron
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West
Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:11:56 PM

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Sarrriesfan wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West

O! There was one division of Poles in Normandy on D-Day. That's great!
On our side 10% of troops that stormed Berlin were Polish.
Romany
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:27:47 PM
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As the daughter of an RAF officer I was always brought up to have great respect and thankfullness to the Polish people. My father and his brother-officers ALSO were aghast at the way they were treated; and for the fact that they came at all considering that. At the height of the Battle of Britain the average age of the OFFICERS was 19. Crew were even younger. Once they were operational their life expectancy was 3 weeks.There was a dark time when it was limited to only a few missions. Logistically, without the Poles Britain would simply have run out of people to take the crates up.

I've seen tears in the eyes of many a flier - my father included - when they mention their Polish comrades. So I am incredibly proud that one of my sons is going to marry a Polish girl.

For anyone who really didn't know any of this, I agree with the commentator: take it in, and think about it.

This sudden batch of Polish-bagging is harmful and based on myth and misinformation. The very least we owe the people of Poland is the truth.
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:30:05 PM

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Харбин Хэйлунцзян 1 wrote:
Sarrriesfan wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces_in_the_West

O! There was one division of Poles in Normandy on D-Day. That's great!
On our side 10% of troops that stormed Berlin were Polish.


The number of troops is not what I questioned but the statement of their heroism, it was always going to,be easier for Polish troops to flee east to the USSR, than west through Germany. It's natural,that the number in Soviet Armies would be larger.

Romany I totally agree with you with regard to the Polish aircrew during the Battle of Britain, they were amongst the bravest of the fliers that flew.
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