The Free Dictionary  
mailing list For webmasters
Welcome Guest Forum Search | Active Topics | Members

An interesting dilemma. Options
MANJUICEBUBBLES
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:38:34 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/2013
Posts: 187
Neurons: 50,901
Location: Miami Beach, Florida, United States
After a long time thinking about such a dilemma I've finally come to my senses and decide to ask the people of TFD.

If hypothetically there were an IQ scale out of 10--1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest--why do most people rate themselves a 7 or higher when in reality they are AT MOST a 4 or 5?

I think it's a very well known phenomenon that normal people think that they're somewhat above average, and above average people think that they're somewhat below average, and dumb people often think they're geniuses.
When you're dumb, you don't even know how little you know. When you're smart, you're usually deeply aware of your own shortcomings. And people always assume that other minds are like theirs, but that's not necessarily true.
pitulush
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:20:06 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 11/30/2012
Posts: 878
Neurons: 467,386
Location: Bucharest, Bucuresti, Romania
IMcRout
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:58:44 PM
Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 5/27/2011
Posts: 35,380
Neurons: 563,379
Location: Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
Being - at least - a 10 on that scale, I enjoyed reading about your dilemma and watching pitulush's link.
Funnily enough that explanation has been taken slightly out of context; both the beginning and the end are missing.
They can be found at the end of this session, at 3:28.
Wonder who did that, and why.
pitulush
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:00:08 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 11/30/2012
Posts: 878
Neurons: 467,386
Location: Bucharest, Bucuresti, Romania
I'd actually seen there was a longer video, but being only 9.5 on that scale, I picked the shorter one.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:18:16 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/12/2011
Posts: 34,213
Neurons: 224,906
Location: Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom
I would say that this is more of a paradox than a dilemma.

A dilemma (unlike a dilemna) is where one has a choice of actions - and both seem equally bad.

Of course, being a 2 or 3 myself . . .(now, did I get that right? Yes - "above average people think that they're somewhat below average" - that works) . . . being a 2 or 3 myself, I may well be wrong.

I really like that little comment at the end of the answer by John Cleese. He is very clever.
IMcRout
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:05:51 AM
Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 5/27/2011
Posts: 35,380
Neurons: 563,379
Location: Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany
Oh Drag0n! I fear for the worst. You should have let sleeping dogs lie. Shhh
Jyrkkä Jätkä
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:59:38 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/21/2009
Posts: 43,128
Neurons: 587,447
Location: Helsinki, Southern Finland Province, Finland
After all, there seems to be a comment dated this year ;-)
Humble B'
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:09:54 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/13/2015
Posts: 541
Neurons: 152,585
Location: Oosterbeek, Gelderland, Netherlands
Drag0nspeaker wrote:
I would say that this is more of a paradox than a dilemma.


I'm never wrong about nothing so trust me, it's not a dilemma nor a paradox, it's an effect called the Dunning-Kruger effect

MANJUICEBUBBLES
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:07:26 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 3/28/2013
Posts: 187
Neurons: 50,901
Location: Miami Beach, Florida, United States
Interesting replies everyone. Yes Drag0nspeaker you are right, this would be more of a paradox than it is a dilemma.
Hope123
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 10:12:23 AM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 3/23/2015
Posts: 9,329
Neurons: 53,317
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Excellent thread. Thanks for the videos and the link to the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

I love British humour. Remember 'The Frost Report'? These guys are way up there on the scale. It takes intelligence to create humour.
Drag0nspeaker
Posted: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:29:40 PM

Rank: Advanced Member

Joined: 9/12/2011
Posts: 34,213
Neurons: 224,906
Location: Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom
Yes - sometimes, I found David Frost's sarcasm a little 'grating' - a bit too cutting - but there's no doubt he was clever!
Users browsing this topic
Guest


Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.