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sri
Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:41:53 AM
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help please,

Could you please tell the meaning of to be tried in the following sentence . And whether the event (to be tried ) was done or still to be done . if it needs to be done then why he has been sentenced to life in prison ( I am thinking of to be tried as needs to be proved ).

The sentence is detainee to be tried in a court has been sentenced to life in prison

Thank you very much in advance.
Alias
Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:38:12 AM
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Sri you are in my opinion, on the money. You cannot be sentenced before you are convicted and you cannot be convicted before you are tried.....err theoretically!! (laughs) In some countries it may not be so clear...

Seriously, that is the sequence charged, tried, convicted/or not, sentenced...

Even where the judicial system is corrupt and people are tried in "Kangaroo Court" where the outcome has been preordained...they still go through the pretence of this sequence.
excaelis
Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:28:32 PM

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The only way it would make any sense is if he had been sentenced in a matter other than the one under discussion in the sentence.
RuthP
Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:30:26 PM

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sri wrote:
help please,

Could you please tell the meaning of to be tried in the following sentence . And whether the event (to be tried ) was done or still to be done . if it needs to be done then why he has been sentenced to life in prison ( I am thinking of to be tried as needs to be proved ).

The sentence is detainee to be tried in a court has been sentenced to life in prison

Thank you very much in advance.

Hi sri,

Do you have more context available? That might give you an idea of whether or not the trial, conviction, and sentencing had already occurred.

It looks very much like the first verb tense (to be) was a mistake. Possibly the writer was confused about verb tenses, or possibly the writer started writing from one point of view, but went back and edited the writing, but did not quite update everything.

You are definitely right: the sentence, as it stands, does not make any sense.
sri
Posted: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:43:28 AM
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Thanks to all. I don't have more written information apart from that. But it was clear from the news conviction had been made.As RuthP stated there was mistake in the sentence formation.

Thanks for conformation of the right meaning.

Thank you very much.
srirr
Posted: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:03:04 AM

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Sri, if you could provide the context and reference, it would had been easier and appropriate. Ruth is correct in stating that the sentence (or the phrase) looks incorrect. However, I feel that the sentence is incomplete. I tried to search this on the Internet and got these sentences:

The first Guantanamo detainee to be tried in a U.S. civilian court was sentenced... ( http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Guantanamo-Detainee-Sentenced-to-Life-in-Prison------114596929.html )

The first Guantanamo detainee to be tried in a U.S. civilian court has been sentenced to life in prison. ( http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/news/2011/01/sec-110125-voa03.htm )

The first Guantanamo detainee to be tried in a civilian court has been sentenced to life in prison. ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4710111 )

Now the sentence makes sense. Doesn't it?
sri
Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:36:22 AM
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Hi Srirr,

Sorry but it is similar to the one you had provided.And another sentence which is having a bit similar structure is the first steam locomotive to be used for regular passenger and freight service in the United States was built in New York City. If only used is used in lieu of to be used what could be the meaning.
pennyesq
Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:54:35 PM
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With regard to "the first steam locomotive to be used for regular passenger and freight service in the United States was built in New York City," changing the "to be used" to "used" would still leave one with a good English sentence. In both this sentence and the one involving the trial, the "to be --" phrases are used in this cases to indicate the past perfect tense.
jacobusmaximus
Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:21:00 PM

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Now if this offender is already detained in prison pending sentence, now announced to be 'Life', and is facing other charges upon which he is to be tried in Court, it could be announced that ' A detainee, waiting to be tried in Court, has just been sentenced to life imprisinment (on other charges)'. Yes?
sri
Posted: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:31:23 PM
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Thanks a lot indeed Pennyesq for making the clear explanation.

Yes Jacobusmaximus it could be announced like that.

Many special thanks for your knowledge sharing .


Your help is appreciated very greatly.

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