|
Rank: Member
Joined: 9/29/2010 Posts: 34 Neurons: 8,771
|
please tell me if the following sentence is correct.
'Where are these groups fetched from?'
Thanks
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 11/22/2009 Posts: 1,627 Neurons: 6,084
|
The word "fetched" is not necessary in this sentence and should be removed. The sentence makes sense wihout it "where are these groups from?"
The word "fetched" means to bring back from somewhere. It is not commonly used in the area where I live, but might be used to say something like "my dog fetched the stick."
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 3/23/2009 Posts: 734 Neurons: 63,903 Location: Bangalore, Karnataka, India
|
MarySM is right. The word 'fetched' is not required here. Where from are these groups?
|
|
Rank: Member
Joined: 2/23/2010 Posts: 23 Neurons: 72 Location: United States
|
Ravindra wrote:MarySM is right. The word 'fetched' is not required here. Where from are these groups? Perhaps "From where" rather than "Where from"?
|
|
 Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 8/3/2009 Posts: 2,625 Neurons: 10,546 Location: Columbia, South Carolina, United States
|
Try not to end a sentence with a preposition. It is called a dangling preposition. A preposition always needs an object. As tiggr stated, you would say "From where are these groups fetched?' But I have no idea what that means. Fetch as in to bring means go get, go and get, go to get, go after, go for, call for pick up, obtain, procure, secure, bring back, retrieve, chase after, run after, things like that.
|
|
 Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 7/8/2010 Posts: 23,388 Neurons: 94,875
|
if you are being a good grammarian and not ending with a prepostion, you should also use the correct preposition..
From whence come these groups?
fetch is transitive, someone fetched these groups. I don't think that is what you mean here.
it is also used as slang/dialect intransitively, but avoid that if you are trying to speak standard English..
my friend fetches from Liverpool = he comes from Liverpool. slang only.
|
|
Rank: Member
Joined: 9/29/2010 Posts: 34 Neurons: 8,771
|
Thanks to all for you valuable replies. The 'group' here means a set of data, so it has to be fetched. So we have to say 'From where are these groups fetched?' correct?
Also, the meaning for 'whence', is given as 'From what/where'. is 'from' implicit here? can we use 'from' before 'whence'?
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 8/24/2010 Posts: 284 Neurons: 848 Location: Poland
|
In my opinion, the verb 'fetch' is used here in a sarcastic way and has something to do with its archaic nominal meaning: a trick, stratagem.
|
|
 Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 7/8/2010 Posts: 23,388 Neurons: 94,875
|
you could use whence come these groups, but is sounds seriously Shakepearean! If you are talking computing I don't think too many people would complain at
where are these groups fetched from? or From where are these groups fetched?
|
|
 Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 6/30/2010 Posts: 10,965 Neurons: 32,652 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
|
Perhaps retrieved ( as in data retrieval ) would be a better option :
From where are these groups retrieved ?
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 5/19/2010 Posts: 472 Neurons: 1,416
|
"What is the source of this data?"
|
|
Rank: Advanced Member
Joined: 4/3/2009 Posts: 888 Neurons: 2,410 Location: Canada
|
"... to fetch a pail of water ..."
|
|
Guest |