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AnthA1G
Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 6:34:07 AM

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Ok, I assume most of you have heard the song 'Making love out of nothing at all' by Air Supply. If you haven't heard the song before, you can do so HERE . Lyrics HERE.

But I don't know how to leave you
And I'll never let you fall
And I don't know how you do it
Making love out of nothing at all


But I'm never gonna make it without you
Do you really want to see me crawl
And I'm never gonna make it like you do
Making love out of nothing at all


I really like the song, but I just don't get the line "Making love out of nothing at all". What's your take on the matterThink ?
pedro
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only a fanatically dedicated literary critic tries to make sense out of pop lyrics.


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Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:11:59 AM

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pedro wrote:
only a fanatically dedicated literary critic tries to make sense out of pop lyrics.


The best quote today, so far!
Applause Applause Applause
kisholoy mukherjee
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pedro wrote:
only a fanatically dedicated literary critic tries to make sense out of pop lyrics.


Oddly though, I have found most rock band lyrics worth the trash bin. The Poets of the Fall, the Finnish band, is one I particularly like, but I have considerable doubt if the band members themselves understand all of the meaningless lyrics they write for their songs.
Pop lyrics on the contrary is quite bland and dull usually.
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AnthA1G wrote:
Ok, I assume most of you have heard the song 'Making love out of nothing at all' by Air Supply. If you haven't heard the song before, you can do so HERE.

But I don't know how to leave you
And I'll never let you fall
And I don't know how you do it
Making love out of nothing at all


But I'm never gonna make it without you
Do you really want to see me crawl
And I'm never gonna make it like you do
Making love out of nothing at all


I really like the song, but I just don't get the line "Making love out of nothing at all". What's your take on the matterThink ?


Perhaps that their relationship lacks real substance or merit or even common ground but they still are attracted to each other.

Or nothing could be their spiritual emptiness, as they use their inner void to fuel their love.

What I got so far, and while Pedro is right, I always do it too, cause of my OCDness.
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[quote=redsxz
What I got so far, and while Pedro is right, I always do it too, cause of my OCDness. [/quote]


I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.
redsxz
Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:05:12 AM
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pedro wrote:
[quote=redsxz
What I got so far, and while Pedro is right, I always do it too, cause of my OCDness.



I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.[/quote]

Where to?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:08:12 AM

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It's art. Lyrics are often "play on words" that resonate an idea or feeling.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:19:14 AM

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Isn't the point about [good] song lyrics that they mean whatever they mean to you.

We hear through the ears of our own experience.
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redsxz


[quote wrote:
I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.


Where to?[/quote]


I collect other people's OCD's now
redsxz
Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:35:39 AM
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pedro wrote:
redsxz


[quote wrote:
I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.


Where to?



I collect other people's OCD's now[/quote]

That's gotta be a big collection, share some!

While subjective listening is okay, one never fully appreciates art till the context is presented to them.
thar
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pedro wrote:
redsxz


[quote wrote:
I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.


Where to?



I collect other people's OCD's now[/quote]

Everyone should learn the London tube map, or we will end up with a generation who can't play Mornington Crescent Anxious
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Music lyrics really take amazing (and often amusing) literary license. Does anyone remember the old C&W song by Charlie Pride that has a verse that states “Sleeping under a table at a roadside park, a man could wake up dead?”
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thar wrote:
pedro wrote:
redsxz


[quote wrote:
I used to know the London tube map by heart (until they changed it) so I suppose I just direct mine elsewhere.


Where to?



I collect other people's OCD's now


Everyone should learn the London tube map, or we will end up with a generation who can't play Mornington Crescent Anxious [/quote]



I used to live near Mornington Crescent (two doors away from Walter Sickert's old abode)when the station was shut for some years. I'm not sure where the official rules are to be found but I'm sure one or more of our anal-retentive colleagues will come up with them.(a link here- http://www.daemoneye.com/mc.html)
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If you know the rules, you ain't playing it right!
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the rules are not written in stone, except they might be- somewhere in Highgate cemetery perhaps.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:36:06 AM

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AnthA1G wrote:
Ok, I assume most of you have heard the song 'Making love out of nothing at all' by Air Supply. If you haven't heard the song before, you can do so HERE.

But I don't know how to leave you
And I'll never let you fall
And I don't know how you do it
Making love out of nothing at all


But I'm never gonna make it without you
Do you really want to see me crawl
And I'm never gonna make it like you do
Making love out of nothing at all


I really like the song, but I just don't get the line "Making love out of nothing at all". What's your take on the matterThink ?


I like this song too. I think that the song is about love, of course. He is speaking about that spiritual communion that happens between two people who are in love. How love takes two separate spirits and creates one new one from the fusion. When two spirits have merged the dissolution of that union or even the threat of it would make make the one crawl in pain. He is crediting the other with having created this union with creation in being in regards to making love 'out of nothing at all.'
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In tennis, of course, 'love' means nothing scorewise
Wanderer
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Tina Turner wrote the song "What's Love Got To Do With It" after she got rid of Ike too.
AnthA1G
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pedro wrote:
only a fanatically dedicated literary critic tries to make sense out of pop lyrics.


It's rock, not pop (Wiki). Anyways, I wanted to know what the title meant because I didn't get it. Although the meaning of the song varies from person to person, I wanted to know how you interpreted the song.Eh?

PS: Thanks for your help red and Wanderer.
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AnthA1G wrote:
Ok, I assume most of you have heard the song 'Making love out of nothing at all' by Air Supply. If you haven't heard the song before, you can do so HERE . Lyrics HERE.

But I don't know how to leave you
And I'll never let you fall
And I don't know how you do it
Making love out of nothing at all


But I'm never gonna make it without you
Do you really want to see me crawl
And I'm never gonna make it like you do
Making love out of nothing at all


I really like the song, but I just don't get the line "Making love out of nothing at all". What's your take on the matterThink ?



Oh, I love Air Supply! And I love this song! As far as I'm concerned, the meaning of that particular line is pretty straightforward. The guy doesn't understand how the girl could make him love her so much. "Making love" of course means making him love her, creating that emotion, in a way. And "out of nothing at all", that may well be an exaggeration because nothing can come out of nothing. There is a Latin expression ex nihilo that is usually mentioned in terms of creation that comes to mind. Sort of like, first there was nothing and then the universe emerged with the Big Bang or how life emerged out of "nothing".

The song also builds on oppositions: all of the things he knows . . . he has the answer to everything, yet he doesn't understand how she could put this spell on him. And it may just be that this mysterious power of hers is what makes him love her even more.

Well, that's how I always saw the song.
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Perhaps it scanned. Who knows with these hairy types ?
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pedro wrote:
only a fanatically dedicated literary critic tries to make sense out of pop lyrics.





Well said. - Applause



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To me, their relationship has passed the lust phase, and they are not finding enough in common to base a long-term relationship on. When the singer says "I'm never going to make it like you do", it indicates one party is able to move on, but the singer cannot imagine life without the other.

This could be nothing like what the writer had in mind, but that is the beauty of poetry -- the interpretation is part of the performance.
AnthA1G
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schrodinger's cat wrote:

Oh, I love Air Supply! And I love this song! As far as I'm concerned, the meaning of that particular line is pretty straightforward. The guy doesn't understand how the girl could make him love her so much. "Making love" of course means making him love her, creating that emotion, in a way. And "out of nothing at all", that may well be an exaggeration because nothing can come out of nothing. There is a Latin expression ex nihilo that is usually mentioned in terms of creation that comes to mind. Sort of like, first there was nothing and then the universe emerged with the Big Bang or how life emerged out of "nothing".

The song also builds on oppositions: all of the things he knows . . . he has the answer to everything, yet he doesn't understand how she could put this spell on him. And it may just be that this mysterious power of hers is what makes him love her even more.

Well, that's how I always saw the song.


Hey Cat (schrodinger's) long time no see. I too love the song!

This is how I first interpreted the song (but I wasn't so sure if that was what it meant because of the the rest of the lyrics and I'd never heard that phrase before). She's making him love her (making love) and he doesn't know why he loves her, so he thinks is out of nothing at all. (Just paraphrasing what you said)Whistle
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early_apex wrote:

This could be nothing like what the writer had in mind, but that is the beauty of poetry -- the interpretation is part of the performance.


Amen!
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I, too, love this song ever since it was first given air-play. I always interpreted it to mean this guy has manipulated the woman into loving him. He has told her lies, took her love and not given her anything in return that she can hold onto - in effect he has given her "nothing at all" and she still loves him. Eventually she has grown tired of this game and is ready to move on and he is suddenly brought to the realization that he can't live without her. How did she do it? he wonders, how did she love him when he gave her nothing to love?
Ah, c'est la vie.
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I'm impressed that we have now, no doubt, expended more effort on this line than the guy who wrote it in the first place. Bravo.
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To me the girl is trying to made love in a relationship but in reality there is nothing.
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I always thought of it as as misinterpretation of signals. He's just being civil and she's taking it as something more than it is. She's imagining there's something there when there isn't. She's making something out of nothing - thus making love out of nothing... at all.

I've also found it hard not to think that this song is just an excuse to keep chanting, "making love" over and over and over and over again.
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excaelis wrote:
I'm impressed that we have now, no doubt, expended more effort on this line than the guy who wrote it in the first place. Bravo.


Witty! I just listened to the song and its sentimental poppy generic love lyrics. Ergh, sick of bland, flavorless love songs.
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I'm just wondering how this song or anything by Air Supply can be considered rock instead of pop.
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Babezy wrote:
I'm just wondering how this song or anything by Air Supply can be considered rock instead of pop.


I haven't heard this song, but I am pretty sure many songs which are referred to as 'rock' can also be called 'pop' and viceversa. I doubt that the difference is very prominent.
Unless one is comparing a 'pop' song with devil rock!
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You're certainly right on the blurry line between rock and pop, KM, but I've always thought of Air Supply as being far away from the line on the pop side, beyond dispute. [Then again, as this forum shows, very little if anything is beyond dispute!]
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excaelis wrote:
I'm impressed that we have now, no doubt, expended more effort on this line than the guy who wrote it in the first place. Bravo.


Well said! Applause
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