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davidbendtner
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:35:46 AM
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Hello Guy's

Please some one explain the usage of these two similar words.if both had the same meaning then why different word's.

Thanks
David
thar
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:44:58 AM

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avenge is a verb
you avenge the deed that hurt you

revenge is a noun
you take revenge on someone who hurt you

so, you avenge your father's death by taking revenge on the man who killed him.

avenger can be a noun : the masked avenger, someone who punishes people for the bad things they have done, to pay them back.

and vengeful and avenging are the adjectives (avenging being the present participal)

there is no verb directly to revenge, you have to take revenge on something or someone.

Sometimes you can avenge a person "he shall be avenged", when what you are basically saying is "his death shall be avenged" or whatever, not always fatal.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:47:47 AM

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You lose points for the apostrophe in guys!!
mgmarie01
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:58:57 AM
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Revenge (also known as vengeance or payback) is a harmful action against a person or group as a response to a real or perceived grievance

avengement - The inflicting of retributive punishment; satisfaction taken


:)
thar
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 9:05:04 AM

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mgmarie01 wrote:
Revenge (also known as vengeance or payback) is a harmful action against a person or group as a response to a real or perceived grievance

avengement - The inflicting of retributive punishment; satisfaction taken


:)


I am surprised avengement is even a word, I can't find it in a good dictionary and it looks very odd. The normal word is vengeance.
GeorgeV
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 10:02:16 AM
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thar wrote:


avenger can be a noun


I apologize for my nitpicking, but this implies that avenger is primarily something other than a noun.
thar
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 10:26:12 AM

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GeorgeV wrote:
thar wrote:


avenger can be a noun


I apologize for my nitpicking, but this implies that avenger is primarily something other than a noun.


Yeah, it is sort of correcting any false impression I might have given earlier in the post that avenge is a verb and revenge a noun, so I nit-picked myself to point out that avenge can have a companion noun but revenge has no verb. Maybe I knew what I was thinking and sort of skipped the complete explanation for the people who weren't actually in my brain at the time!
Ellenrita
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 11:00:23 AM
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Avenge and revenge(?), read Hamlet!
jcbarros
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 11:09:46 AM

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I recall one of favorite TV series:The Avengers (That exposed my age...d'oh! )
Wanderer
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I remember The Avengers, but I was only a wee little wordy then (ha ha). Vindicate is the root word of both avenge and revenge.
frasha4ever
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 11:50:45 AM
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thar wrote:
avenge is a verb
you avenge the deed that hurt you

revenge is a noun
you take revenge on someone who hurt you

so, you avenge your father's death by taking revenge on the man who killed him.

avenger can be a noun : the masked avenger, someone who punishes people for the bad things they have done, to pay them back.

and vengeful and avenging are the adjectives (avenging being the present participal)

there is no verb directly to revenge, you have to take revenge on something or someone.

Sometimes you can avenge a person "he shall be avenged", when what you are basically saying is "his death shall be avenged" or whatever, not always fatal.


I liked this explanation, sounds very clear to me.
grammargeek
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thar wrote:
You lose points for the apostrophe in guys!!


Well done, thar, well done. Applause
Jyrkkä Jätkä
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Hey guys! Why don't we all go to Guy's pub for good guys and have big mugs of good guys' beer?
Investigator
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thar wrote:
avenge is a verb
you avenge the deed that hurt you

revenge is a noun
you take revenge on someone who hurt you

so, you avenge your father's death by taking revenge on the man who killed him.

avenger can be a noun : the masked avenger, someone who punishes people for the bad things they have done, to pay them back.

and vengeful and avenging are the adjectives (avenging being the present participal)

there is no verb directly to revenge, you have to take revenge on something or someone.

Sometimes you can avenge a person "he shall be avenged", when what you are basically saying is "his death shall be avenged" or whatever, not always fatal.


Revenge can be a transitive verb. (I have revenged the wrongs done to me.)
thar
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 4:59:43 PM

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Investigator wrote:
thar wrote:
avenge is a verb
you avenge the deed that hurt you

revenge is a noun
you take revenge on someone who hurt you

so, you avenge your father's death by taking revenge on the man who killed him.

avenger can be a noun : the masked avenger, someone who punishes people for the bad things they have done, to pay them back.

and vengeful and avenging are the adjectives (avenging being the present participal)

there is no verb directly to revenge, you have to take revenge on something or someone.

Sometimes you can avenge a person "he shall be avenged", when what you are basically saying is "his death shall be avenged" or whatever, not always fatal.


Revenge can be a transitive verb. (I have revenged the wrongs done to me.)


would anyone here ever use it? That is the exact meaning of avenge. Think
excaelis
Posted: Wednesday, September 1, 2010 6:44:17 PM

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This seems to be another of those idiomatic banana skins that English throws into the path of the unwary learner. Yes, revenge can be used as a verb, but nobody does. It sounds weird, except when used thus: " I have revenged myself upon my tormentors.' It seems you can revenge reflexively upon something and it sounds fine. Think
HWNN1961
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If you are wronged, you seek revenge against the perpetrator.

IF someone you know was wronged, you avenge them.
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jcbarros wrote:
I recall one of favorite TV series:The Avengers (That exposed my age...d'oh! )


Ah, The Avengers. I remember thinking they were so cool! I was in my early teens then.
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