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nima_persian
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 1:57:40 PM
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Would you please show me if I have written the following correctly grammatically?

...those whose behaviour my family don't like.

Many thanks Pray
JL-2
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:45:34 PM
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… those whose behavior my family doesn't like.
Daniela Aguglia
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 2:53:27 PM

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I'd say "those people whose behaviour my family doesn't like"
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Sadie S.
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:05:05 PM
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JL-2 wrote:
… those whose behavior my family doesn't like.


I agree with JL-2 that in this case 'doesn't' is correct usage, but I have a further question based on nima_persian's question. While 'doesn't' is the only correct answer for U.S. usage, I'm not sure I understand why 'don't' isn't acceptable in British usage. If "My family are coming for the weekend" isn't incorrect in British usage, why would "...those whose behavior my family don't like" be incorrect? Slightly confused American here! d'oh!

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Daniela Aguglia
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:29:28 PM

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Yes Sadie I'm sorry! You're right!..h
Daniela Aguglia
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:30:45 PM

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Yes Sadie I'm sorry! You're right!..
NKM
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:32:52 PM

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And even in American English I wouldn't complain about "... my family don't like."

In fact I might well say it that way myself. My family is far from monolithic, and sometimes we need to accept (or even stress) that we're really speaking of several individuals.

British logic is not always wrong!



albion
Posted: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:49:04 PM

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Whether in Britain or the US. "My family don't" sounds very wrong to me. It reminds me of the South Philly Rockie dialect that pervades some parts of my community.
But then, I grew up with a family that prides itself on being critical with grammar and vocabulary--so I can be a stick in the mud.

I guess it really depends upon your audience. When in doubt, I opt for formal wording.
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nima_persian
Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 1:08:52 AM
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First off, thanks all. Then, am I right?Think

So, grammatically or formally - it seems- "my family don't" is wrong, considering what you have explained.
Daniela Aguglia
Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 2:34:32 AM

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See Usage Note at collective noun in English Dictionary
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AndEng
Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 3:31:18 AM

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nima_persian wrote:


First off, thanks all. Then, am I right?Think

So, grammatically or formally - it seems- "my family don't" is wrong, considering what you have explained.


Hi Nima,

here is the link to collective nouns and their usage in British English and American English.
It is rather simple and clear, but if you have problems here we are.
NKM
Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:53:40 PM

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Thanks, AndEng -

I clicked on that link and was gratified to find that it agrees with my own usage.

Of course that means it must be right!

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