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TheParser
Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:23:14 AM
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The British online newspaper Independent reports that Italy and Israel recently played a soccer [football] game.

The match took place in Israel.

The article reports that some Italian fans [the number was not indicated] did the following:

a. Gave the Nazi salute.
b. Booed the Israeli national anthem.
c. Spat on some Israeli people.

Two Italian fans were removed from the stadium, but no further action was taken against them.

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The article did not speculate on the motivation of the protesters.

From what I have read during the last few years, I am guessing that there are at least three possible explanations:

1. A few Europeans self-identify as neo-Nazis.

2. Many Europeans disagree with Israel's policies toward the Palestinians.

3. Some European soccer fans do not conduct themselves like good sports.

a. They yell unkind words to players of the opposing team.
b. After they leave the stadium, they do not always behave well (e.g., they trash the trains taking them home).
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 8:38:38 AM

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TheParser wrote:
The British online newspaper Independent reports that Italy and Israel recently played a soccer [football] game.

The match took place in Israel.

The article reports that some Italian fans [the number was not indicated] did the following:

a. Gave the Nazi salute.
b. Booed the Israeli national anthem.
c. Spat on some Israeli people.

Two Italian fans were removed from the stadium, but no further action was taken against them.

*****

The article did not speculate on the motivation of the protesters.

From what I have read during the last few years, I am guessing that there are at least three possible explanations:

1. A few Europeans self-identify as neo-Nazis.

2. Many Europeans disagree with Israel's policies toward the Palestinians.

3. Some European soccer fans do not conduct themselves like good sports.

a. They yell unkind words to players of the opposing team.
b. After they leave the stadium, they do not always behave well (e.g., they trash the trains taking them home).


Sounds like they were behaving like typical Ultras.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultras
It does have a lot to do with supporting their own team and behaving in an unkind manner towards those that support and play for the opposition. Some of them are also Neo-Fascists, but as Italy has its own history of fascism under Mussolini I would not call them Neo-Nazis.
I doubt it has anything to do with protesting against Israeli policies in Palestine. that is a little too political for them.
taurine
Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:00:52 AM

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I not only like pizza, but a History too.

It may be an example of a wrongly understood intentions, and creation of an inaccurate opinion, on the side of the British online newspaper Independent.
Why? Because around 2016 years ago, Israel was a client-state of Rome. Certain Herod the Great was a ruler there, 2016 years ago.
Those Italian fans might have just saluted like Romans did, making a prank, instead of expressing their dubious pro-Nazi stance.
If those football fans were from other country, Germany included, allegations made by the British newspaper might be more viable. But not in the case of Italians, based on the reasons above.
Axel Bear
Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:02:48 AM

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FIFA may still be corrupt, but this organization is very strict with outing of any political 'slogans' during matches.

As of 10 September the FIFA official homepage states:

'All match data is provisional until the FIFA Official match report is available.'

Watch this space.


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Posted: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:44:21 AM

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Axel I really trust FIFA to adjudicate this one.
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