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Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:02:46 AM

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Is it possible to use "prerequisites" like this?

There weren't any prerequisites for criticism.
There weren't any prerequisites for criticizing him.
There weren't any prerequisites to criticize him.
lazarius
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:18:11 AM

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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
Is it possible to use "prerequisites" like this?

If you are trying to use the word the way we use the Russian предпосылка, then the answer is no.

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Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:38:04 AM

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Much obliged but would also like to know an opinion of a native speaker's....
thar
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:41:42 AM

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I think you mean reasons or grounds, justification.

Prerequisites are something you have to obtain or achieve befire you are able to do something.

You can't use it to mean that something they have done warrants you critisising them.

"Having irrefutable evidence" is a prerequisite if you intend to criticise someone.

There are no grounds for critisising him.
lazarius
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:51:31 AM

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thar wrote:
You can't use it to mean that something they have done warrants you critisising them.

It is actually a little different. If you criticise someone they must have done something wrong. So logically their doing something wrong is a sort of requirement. And we say:

Не было никаких предпосылок для критики.

thar wrote:
There are no grounds for critisising him.

Yes. This is what he is after.

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tautophile
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 2:08:08 AM
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I have to agree with Thar: "prerequisite(s)" is not a good word to use in your three sentences, Ivan. As Thar suggests, "reason(s)", "grounds", or "justification(s)" would be better.
Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 2:51:23 AM

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thar wrote:


Prerequisites are something you have to obtain or achieve befire you are able to do something.

You can't use it to mean that something they have done warrants you critisising them.

"Having irrefutable evidence" is a prerequisite if you intend to criticise someone.

There are no grounds for critisising him.


Not quite following you here. If I need/want to criticize someone I need to have prerequisites for doing so.

thar
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:13:13 AM

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No
The prerequisite is something set externally that you have to achieve. Before you can do it.

In most cases, the correct word is requirement.

Evidence is required before the police can charge you with a crime.

That is not a prerequisite, it is a requirement + before.


Having passed the course in algebra is a prerequisite for applying for the course in calculus.
Passing the driving theory test is a prerequisite for applying for the driving practical test. = You must pass the theory test before you can apply to take the practical test.
Ie you have to have done it first.
Pre- requisite.

In your scenario:
You need evidence to be able to accuse someone.
Evidence is required. It is a requirement.
Without evidence, you have no grounds for accusing him.
There was no evidence against him.
There were no grounds for accusing him.

You could say 'having evidence is a pre-requisite if you intend to accuse someone' but there really is no point because it is a requirement. The word prerequisite, with its additional meaning of doing it first, is not needed.
FounDit
Posted: Thursday, November 25, 2021 11:00:55 AM

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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
Is it possible to use "prerequisites" like this?

There weren't any prerequisites for criticism.
There weren't any prerequisites for criticizing him.
There weren't any prerequisites to criticize him.


There is one way of using prerequisite this way. You could say, "I'm a nasty person and that is a prerequisite for me to criticize him/people". In this way, a nasty personality is required first to accomplish the second. That probably wouldn't be a good thing to advertise, however...Whistle
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