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Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:05:33 AM

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1 No sooner had we finished the research than we started a new one. WRONG
2 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new one. WRONG
3 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new. ???
thar
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:17:58 AM

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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
1 No sooner had we finished the research than we started a new one. WRONG
research is uncountable
2 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new one. WRONG
one is countable, so it would need an article but it doesn't work because 'one' can't refer back to uncountable research.
3 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new. ???



Your problem is that you finished the research into something. The research project.
So you finished the research you were doing (your previous project) and started a new project. It is implicit that your new project is also research.
You do research (the general activity). - uncountable.
That is done in individual projects - countable.

It depends what sort of research you mean - researching a story (then you write the story); scientific research (then you write the paper) etc.

The research has been previously defined. The research on the new cancer drug. The project continues as you write it up and publish it.
Then you start a new research project.
No sooner had we finished the research than we started on a new project / started researching a new drug / [started new research].

You would not repeat that with 'started new research' because that is repetition. But you can't replace it with a pronoun because those are countable.

sureshot
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:56:29 AM
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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
1 No sooner had we finished the research than we started a new one. WRONG
2 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new one. WRONG
3 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new. ???

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You could say:

- No sooner had we finished one research (project/study), than we started the next. (= As soon as we finished one research (project/study), we started the next.)
Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 1:16:28 PM

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thar wrote:

You would not repeat that with 'started new research' because that is repetition. But you can't replace it with a pronoun because those are countable.


But no grammar rule is violated. I can make repetition if I want. I don't understand what can make the speaker not repeat the word "research" twice.
Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 1:17:56 PM

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sureshot wrote:
Ivan Fadeev wrote:
1 No sooner had we finished the research than we started a new one. WRONG
2 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new one. WRONG
3 No sooner had we finished the research than we started new. ???

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You could say:

- No sooner had we finished one research (project/study), than we started the next. (= As soon as we finished one research (project/study), we started the next.)


But how is it possible to use "one" with "research"? Research is uncountable. It turns out that "a research" is wrong but "one research" is correct. How is that possible?
sureshot
Posted: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 1:38:36 PM
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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
You could say:

- No sooner had we finished one research (project/study), than we started the next. (= As soon as we finished one research (project/study), we started the next.)


But how is it possible to use "one" with "research"? Research is uncountable. It turns out that "a research" is wrong but "one research" is correct. How is that possible?[/quote]
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In the sentence mentioned, "research" functions as an adjective to the noun project/study etc. The complete expression is considered. "One research" by itself is incorrect as "research" is a mass/uncountable noun. However, we can say one research study/project/paper etc.
Ivan Fadeev
Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:02:24 AM

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No sooner had we finished the research than we started other research. OK?
sureshot
Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:05:14 AM
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Ivan Fadeev wrote:
No sooner had we finished the research than we started other research. OK?

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No. "Started other research" is faulty.
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