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DavidLearn
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 11:07:07 AM

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Hi teachers,
If I have a picture where you can see the moon, the stars, and the sky, is it correct the answer?

What are these?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


Thanks.
FounDit
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:15:50 PM

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DavidLearn wrote:
Hi teachers,
If I have a picture where you can see the moon, the stars, and the sky, is it correct the answer?

What are these?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


Thanks.


A native would probably ask, "What do you see in the picture?", or "What things are in the picture?". Simply asking, "What are these?" seems a bit strange because "these" tends to indicate real items rather than things in a picture. That's why we indicate the picture.
Sarrriesfan
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02:08 PM

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If I was asked that question I would probably just say the moon and the stars.
The sky in this case is just a default background to the obvious features, unless there was some other context to show that sky should be used.
DavidLearn
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:15:10 PM

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DavidLearn wrote:
If I have a picture where you can see the moon, the stars, and the sky, is it correct the answer?

What are these?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


FounDit wrote:
A native would probably ask, "What do you see in the picture?", or "What things are in the picture?". Simply asking, "What are these?" seems a bit strange because "these" tends to indicate real items rather than things in a picture. That's why we indicate the picture.



The thing is that we are learning some of the uses for the definite article "THE".
In this case this one:
We use the definite article the before a noun to refer to specific, unique objects or unique group of objects.
For example, the earth, the sea, and the sun.


I understand, FounDit, what you mean by asking "What do you see in the picture?", or "What things are in the picture?", but there are a lot of pictures in each chapter to ask questions with, "What is this/that?", "What are these/those?", "What's in the picture?" "Where's the book?", and so on. All of the questions use pictures to ask them.
That said, is it that wrong to ask "What is this?" or "What are these?"




DavidLearn
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:19:53 PM

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Sarrriesfan wrote:
If I was asked that question I would probably just say the moon and the stars.
The sky in this case is just a default background to the obvious features, unless there was some other context to show that sky should be used.


I understand as well your point. Please, see my reply to FounDit.



FounDit
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:21:26 PM

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DavidLearn wrote:
DavidLearn wrote:
If I have a picture where you can see the moon, the stars, and the sky, is it correct the answer?

What are these?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


FounDit wrote:
A native would probably ask, "What do you see in the picture?", or "What things are in the picture?". Simply asking, "What are these?" seems a bit strange because "these" tends to indicate real items rather than things in a picture. That's why we indicate the picture.



The thing is that we are learning some of the uses for the definite article "THE".
In this case this one:
We use the definite article the before a noun to refer to specific, unique objects or unique group of objects.
For example, the earth, the sea, and the sun.


I understand, FounDit, what you mean by asking "What do you see in the picture?", or "What things are in the picture?", but there are a lot of pictures in each chapter to ask questions with, "What is this/that?", "What are these/those?", "What's in the picture?" "Where's the book?", and so on. All of the questions use pictures to ask them.
That said, is it that wrong to ask "What is this?" or "What are these?"


Ah, I think I understand. Knowing the focus is on articles helps. I focused more on the question and missed the point about the articles. It would be similar to my sitting in class learning Spanish articles such as la, le, los, el. So I would answer with la luna, las estrellas, y el cielo, ¿si?

If I have that right, then, yes, those answers are correct.
DavidLearn
Posted: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:57:23 PM

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FounDit wrote:
Ah, I think I understand. Knowing the focus is on articles helps. I focused more on the question and missed the point about the articles. It would be similar to my sitting in class learning Spanish articles such as la, le, los, el. So I would answer with la luna, las estrellas, y el cielo, ¿si?

If I have that right, then, yes, those answers are correct.

They are very right! Applause

Then it is correct to ask and answer like this:
What are these/they?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


FounDit
Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 10:53:53 AM

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DavidLearn wrote:
FounDit wrote:
Ah, I think I understand. Knowing the focus is on articles helps. I focused more on the question and missed the point about the articles. It would be similar to my sitting in class learning Spanish articles such as la, le, los, el. So I would answer with la luna, las estrellas, y el cielo, ¿si?

If I have that right, then, yes, those answers are correct.

They are very right! Applause

Then it is correct to ask and answer like this:
What are these/they?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.


Yes, this is good.
DavidLearn
Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:21:19 PM

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DavidLearn wrote:
Then it is correct to ask and answer like this:
What are these/they?
They are the moon, the stars, and the sky.

FounDit wrote:
Yes, this is good.

End of discussion. Thanks for your help.



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